Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 04:19:52 12/23/03
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On December 23, 2003 at 06:23:02, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>On December 23, 2003 at 04:52:27, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On December 23, 2003 at 04:25:33, Günther Simon wrote:
>>
>>>I really wonder why all people immediately start
>>>throwing away the book(s) it was delivered with?
>>>So far I have seen only results with so called
>>>'remis.ctg', 'Fritz8 book', 'Nunn-Test' and
>>>whatever. Is it really true that no one anymore
>>>is capable of testing like it comes?
>>>No I am not from the Ruffian-team...it's a shame
>>>for all the wasted time of bookcookers!
>>>
>>>Günther
>>
>> Agreed Günther, it's a shame in particular as it
>> said that the book is good. In view of the price
>> of Euro 49.95 plus postal fees of Euro 12.50, so
>> total Euro 62.45 Ruffian 2.0.0 is too expensive
>> [relation between software and postal fees] for
>> me. That's a pity.
>> Kurt
>
>Hi Kurt,
>
>1.
>What is the price for an other product in Switzerland where you must give Euro
>50?
I do not understand your question (what an other product)
Kurt
>
>2.
>Do you have directly a dealer in Switzerland?
>Do you speak with this dealer, maybe he have interest on the Ruffian 2.0.0
>CD-Rom.
I know only one dealer in Switzerland but he sells
exclusively ChessBase products. Therefore no chance
to get Ruffian 2.0.0 from him.
Kurt
>
>3.
>The high prices for shipping are clear for me!
>Normaly prices for shipping in Germany:
>From Germany to Germany = Euro 1,53 or 1,44 (not sure)
>From Germany to Europe = Euro 4
>From Germany to other countrys (shipping by air) = Euro 8
>
>But this is for a dealer not interesting to send a CD-Rom in DVD case without:
>"TRANSPORT INSURANCE"
>
>The way "Schach Niggemann" go is absolutly right!
I do no claim that costs for shipping are too high
or not justified: it's all correct I think. It is
merely my opinion and my decision that I am not prepared
to buy any products where shipping costs or other fees are
25 % of the selling price of the given product. It's just
a pity that I am living in Switzerland.
Kurt
>
>Different persons speak from a WWW page with credit card possibilities and
>download selection!
>
>I am thinking a long time about it!
>The reason why I have no interest to create such an page is quit plain for me.
No problem with that Frank, I fully understand you.
But it would have been nice.
Kurt
>
>I am sure that "All" persons which have interest on computer chess are honest
>persons. I am the typical computer chess mega power user and don't like any form
>of copy protections. I give the work by honest persons for honest persons
>without copy protections and this is the reason that I cann't not create a WWW
>download page.
In this respect I can't agree with you. I take it for granted
that too many people are not that honest you think and therefore
I would never sell a software product without copy protection. And
just to insert the CD-ROM from time to time does not bother me.
Kurt
>
>Now you can thinking in a minute without chess :-) about my words.
>
>Do you prefer as user of chess software a CD-Rom with copyprotection for a
>higher price (reason are shipping costs) or do you prefer as user of chess
>software a copy protection without high shipping costs. Do you prefer to hold a
>CD in your hand or do you prefer to get a engine by mail.
If I have the choice: I prefer to get software via download in the
the Internet, payment with credit card instead of waiting days or
even weeks for the software.
Kurt
>Now you must thinking for the next times ....
>Your opinion and the opinion from other users in the World!
>
>After all the discuss about copy protection in the last 15 years I am sure that
>the way I go is right.
>
>I am sure that no persons have interest to betray Per-Ola and the other persons
>which work on this project. Per-Ola give his first engine for free, Martin give
>his GUI for free (we can also make Arena commercial, no problem) and I have a
>lot of costs to realize this new idea.
>
>We all assured of our willingness and if I speaking from myself I assured of my
>willingness since 6 years internet!
>
>If you have no interest to buy the CD is this OK for you and for us and Nobody
>must buy a computer chess CD-Rom.
>
>For this group of persons we have an offer!!
>
>Arena 1.0 or newer version with ASA password with the combination Ruffain 1.0.5
>... the strongest free available WinBoard engine in the World for FREE !!
You know I have Arena 1.0 and Ruffian 1.0.5 installed for free.
Indeed a fantastic GUI with very strong chess programs. Many thanks
to you, Per-Ola and Martin.
Kurt
>
>Best
>Frank
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