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Subject: Re: Junior-Crafty hardware user experiment - 19th and final game

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 06:03:45 12/23/03

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On December 23, 2003 at 06:39:22, Peter Berger wrote:

>On December 22, 2003 at 22:59:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>To go back to the discussion that started this: it looks as if Crafty on 10
>>>times faster hardware is indeed very competitive with a top commercial engine,
>>>but not necessarily the overwhelming favourite.
>>
>>That was my original point in response to Omid's rather crass "if they
>>thought they had any chance of winning, they would have come..." statement.
>>
>>And the main point is that I probably would not have been "just" 10X
>>faster.  :)
>>
>
>Interesting. I think this was not challenged in discussion partly because there
>was no clear idea how much faster Crafty would have to be.
>
>Let's say you had planned to show up with 10X faster hardware with Crafty at
>WCCC2003.
>
>This is what Junior used there:
>http://www.chess.at/turniere/turniere2003/chess003/video/int2.wmv
>
>Intel 4* 2.8 GHz
>
>What would you have got for Crafty?
>
>Peter

It would probably not be too hard to get a 64-way Itanium2 box.  I know Vincent
was "practicing" on one of those :)  I think that'd be about 60M nps for crafty.
 I'm not sure how much stronger it would be, though.  I think evaluation is much
more important than search depth once you start hitting 14-15 ply.

anthony



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