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Subject: Re: Junior-Crafty hardware user experiment - 19th and final game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:32:12 12/23/03

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On December 23, 2003 at 06:39:22, Peter Berger wrote:

>On December 22, 2003 at 22:59:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>To go back to the discussion that started this: it looks as if Crafty on 10
>>>times faster hardware is indeed very competitive with a top commercial engine,
>>>but not necessarily the overwhelming favourite.
>>
>>That was my original point in response to Omid's rather crass "if they
>>thought they had any chance of winning, they would have come..." statement.
>>
>>And the main point is that I probably would not have been "just" 10X
>>faster.  :)
>>
>
>Interesting. I think this was not challenged in discussion partly because there
>was no clear idea how much faster Crafty would have to be.
>
>Let's say you had planned to show up with 10X faster hardware with Crafty at
>WCCC2003.
>
>This is what Junior used there:
>http://www.chess.at/turniere/turniere2003/chess003/video/int2.wmv
>
>Intel 4* 2.8 GHz
>
>What would you have got for Crafty?
>
>Peter

Several _possible_ machines.  One here in Alabama, 64-way Itanium.  Another
was a 64-way alpha.  Another choice was a 16-way opteron.  I really didn't
investigate what I might use, because if you read the rules, they _really_
want the author present, else it gets even _more_ expensive to enter which is
silly.

There were other possibilities for machines, but it is pointless to start
bugging people about "what if" to see if a machine might be usable, when I
really was not considering going due to the length of the event..

The 16-way opteron is probably the slowest of the above machines, and it
would ring in at 32M+ nodes per second, up to 44M+ in endgames, based on
the 8-11M nps I saw on the 4-way box I played with for a while on ICC.



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