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Subject: Re: The King's News Clothes (Re: DB vs)

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 00:14:02 11/24/98

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On November 23, 1998 at 22:38:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>If they take (say) 5 minutes to do a 10 ply search, at 250M+ nodes per second,
>that is over 300X the number of nodes a full-width search to depth=10 should
>search.  If you factor in a q-search that is the same size as the full-width
>part, we have a missing factor of 150 to account for.  I say that is *all*
>search extensions.  And I say that is *far* more than any of the rest of us do
>in terms of extensions.  How *else* would you characterize this?

I don't want to go into a heated discussion, but I notice:

A program that does no forward pruning has a branching factor of (roughly) 5.

A program that uses null move has a branching factor of (roughly) 3.

  (5^10) / (3^10) = 165.38

Weren't you looking for a factor of 150 or so ?

If the IBM team is interested I can provide some help for their null move
implementation. This way we could have the power of Deeper Blue with only one of
their chip stuffed into a simple PC. :)


    Christophe



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