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Subject: Re: I want more engines

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 06:50:33 12/24/03

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On December 23, 2003 at 17:39:40, Ziad Haddad wrote:

>Hello everybody
>I think that we must thank ChessBase for the job they are doing, een if this
>company takes from us almost 300 to 500 § each year because of the different
>bought products.
>
>Till the release of Hiarcs 9 and Deep Junior 8, i was really very happy to buy
>these products and i was googly surprised by the fact that there was not a
>single engine but two or even three engines in the same package. This maked me
>not to sleep for nights and nights to test the different engines in one to one
>matches but also comparative tests against the other engines. I also appreciated
>the different Fritz 8 upgrades even if i was obliged to buy more CD's just to
>get these updates but i liked each penny spent.
>
>I would like then to send a message for ChessBase, please keep on releasing more
>than one engine in the same CD (For Shredder8 i hope to get at least Three
>engines!!!!!!). I also would like to see GambitTiger 4.0 as a separate engine,
>but also would like to see also Kamikaze Tiger as a separate engine!!
>
>If you agree with me, please post your encouraging messages here!! Anyway, if
>this will become true we will be the most satisfied because we will get an
>engine for less than 15§ not one for 50§ or even more

I agree. I think Chessbase should do the following:

1) When buying a new engine, the old versions of the same product should be
included. (ie, Shredder 8 should include Shredder 7, Shredder 6, Shredder 5.32,
etc). This won't be much of a help for fanatics like me who buy every Chessbase
engine as soon as it's released, but it would be a bonus for
johnny-come-latelys. (Or maybe it would be a help, because all the Shredder
versions could be "refreshed" by inserting the same CD).

2) CDs should include a variety of weaker engines that play anwhere between 1000
and 1800 Elo as-is, without having to use the handicap levels. At the moment
only Crafty and Comet are included, but these can hardly be called "weak". The
free engine Turing would be a good start at the bottom end of the scale
(strength about 1000?) but there's a big gap up to Bam Bam, the next weakest
Chessbase engine at roughly 2100. (Sure, there are the handicap levels, but I
have the impression that when a strong engine is handicapped it just makes silly
mistakes. I want engines that play weakly without playing stupidly).



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