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Subject: Re: Conclusion

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:03:35 12/26/03

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On December 26, 2003 at 15:43:59, Slater Wold wrote:

>On December 26, 2003 at 15:34:43, Darren Rushton wrote:
>
>>>Actually what happens, is the 366 is SLOW.  And I mean SLOW.
>>
>>I don't intend to be controversial here, but the conclusion I draw from your
>>results is that Shredder 7 is such a brilliant program it is almost a match for
>>the one of the better amateur programs on hardware that's almost 10 times
>>slower.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Darren
>
>I don't disagree.  Shredder is doing very well.  Rebel won a single game in a
>match against the same exact program (while Crafty won the 6).
>
>Shredder is getting an amazing 80k nps in most positions.  80k!  Crafty is
>getting 1.9M in some positions, and the lowest NPS number I have seen from
>crafty was about 1.2M.
>
>I have even seen Shredder kill Crafty in a tactical match; which is
>unbelievable.  At an 8x disadvatange, you'd think that these games would mostly
>boil down to tactics, and of course Crafty would win.  Not so.

I see no reason to expect Crafty to win in a tactical match.
I believe that the potential tactical improvement for chess programs is clearly
more than being 8 times faster and I do not find it surprising that people who
worked for many years on their program found ways to do the program more than 8
times faster in some positions.

Uri



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