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Subject: Re: Conclusion

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 13:17:38 12/26/03

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On December 26, 2003 at 15:34:43, Darren Rushton wrote:

>>Actually what happens, is the 366 is SLOW.  And I mean SLOW.
>
>I don't intend to be controversial here, but the conclusion I draw from your
>results is that Shredder 7 is such a brilliant program it is almost a match for
>the one of the better amateur programs on hardware that's almost 10 times
>slower.
>
>Regards,
>
>Darren

It's not controversial and it's not new.  In fact, these results could have been
predicted.   Anytime you have a rating difference of around 200 points (SSDF
Shredder 2812, Crafty 2615) running on the same hardware, you would expect fair
match would be on a somewhere where the weaker engine need a 8x to 10x speedup.
 It is often believed that a doubling of speed increase strength of around 50
elo points (some feel more, others less) especially in computer vs computer
play.  200 point rating differential would indicate:

2^3=8
50x2x2=200 points

therefore one would assume that it would require ~approx 8x machine would for
the weaker engine to catch up...

SSDF
  Rating + - Games Won Av.opp
1 Shredder 7.04 UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2812 28 -26 781 75% 2623
30 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2615 27 -27 647 52% 2604

In my view, Shredder 7.0.4 is the stongest engine available and I have seen
nothing to indicate that it should change.

Shredder would fair just as well or better against most other amatuer engines as
well under the same conditions.



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