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Subject: Re: Crafty and Ruffian odd 4th move choice ...

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 16:02:12 12/26/03

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On December 26, 2003 at 18:10:51, Jim Monaghan wrote:

>In this study:
>
>[D]8/5B2/4P3/8/8/4k1p1/6P1/3b3K w - - 0 1
>
>There are stalemate and underpromotion themes.
>First off, 1.Kg1? allows 1...Bb3 pinning the e-pawn.
>Also, 1.e7? Kf2 2.e8=Q Bf3 3.Bd5 Bxg2+ 4.Bxg2 stalemate.
>The right way is 1.Be8! Kf2 2.Bc6 Be2 3.e7 Bf1 4.e8=N! and White wins by
>bringing his knight to e4.
>
>My question is that both Ruffian and Crafty perfer 4.e8=B? both giving high
>scores. Yace gets it right with the knight underpromotion. Obviously with
>4.e8=B, 4...Bxg2+ is a draw. I don't have tablebases installed on this PC.
>Anyone know what's going on? Why no contempt factor for bishops of the same
>colour?
>
>Jim

Which crafty version are you using?

Crafty 19.08 SE (available from for free by email with the word "include" in the
subject heading) sees your winning line in a few (6) seconds on my dual 1.7 Ghz

Crafty19.08 SE  UCI 2 MB:
 8   00:00  2.46   1.e7 Ba4 2.Kg1 Bd7 3.Bg6 Be6 4.Bc2 Kf4
 9   00:00  1.49   1.e7 Kf4 2.e8Q Kg4 3.Qd7+ Kf4 4.Qxd1 Kg5 5.Qf3
10   00:00  1.73   1.e7 Kf4 2.e8Q Kg5 3.Qd8+ Kf4 4.Qb8+ Kg4
11   00:00  2.13   1.e7
11   00:00  2.30   1.e7 Kf2 2.Bd5 Ba4 3.Ba8 Be8 4.Bf3 Ke3 5.Kg1 Kf4 6.Bd5
12   00:01  2.23   1.e7 Kf2 2.Bd5 Ba4 3.Ba8 Be8 4.Bf3 Ke3 5.Kg1 Kf4 6.Bd5 Kg5
13   00:01  2.25   1.e7 Kf2 2.Bd5 Ba4 3.Ba8 Be8 4.Bf3 Ke3 5.Kg1 Kf4 6.Bd5 Ke5
7.Bc4
14   00:02  2.20   1.e7 Kf2 2.Bd5 Ba4 3.Ba8 Be8 4.Bf3 Ke3 5.Kg1 Kf4 6.Bd5 Ke5
7.Bf3 Kf4
15   00:03  1.30   1.e7 Kf2 2.Bd5 Ba4 3.Bf3 Be8 4.Bb7 Ke3 5.Kg1 Kf4 6.Kf1 Ke5
7.Ke2 Kd6 8.Kf3
15   00:04  1.37   1.Kg1 Bb3 2.Bg8 Ba4 3.Bh7 Kf4 4.Bd3 Bb3 5.e7 Ke5 6.Kf1 Kf6
7.e8N+ Kg5 8.Nd6
16   00:05  0.05   1.Kg1 Bb3 2.Bg8 Ba4 3.Bh7 Kf4 4.Bd3 Ke5 5.Bc4 Kd6 6.Ba2 Bc6
7.Bb3 Bd7 8.exd7 Kxd7
16   00:06  1.77   1.Be8
16   00:11  1.76   1.Be8
17   00:13  1.43   1.Be8 Kf2 2.Bc6 Be2 3.e7 Bf1 4.e8N Ke3 5.Bf3 Bd3 6.Nf6 Bg6
7.Kg1 Kf4 8.Nd5+ Ke5 9.Ne7
18   00:19  1.35   1.Be8 Kf2 2.Bc6 Be2 3.e7 Bf1 4.e8N Be2 5.Be4 Ke3 6.Nd6 Kf2
7.Bf5 Ke3 8.Kg1 Kf4 9.Be4 Ke3
19   00:26  1.37   1.Be8 Kf2 2.Bc6 Be2 3.e7 Bf1 4.e8N Be2 5.Nf6 Ke3 6.Nd5+ Kd4
7.Nf4 Bd1 8.Kg1 Ke5 9.Nd3+ Ke6 10.Nc5+ Kf5
20   00:27  1.30   1.Be8 Kf2 2.Bc6 Be2 3.e7 Bf1 4.e8N Be2 5.Nf6 Ke3 6.Be8 Kf4
7.Bh5 Bc4 8.Bf3 Kg5 9.Nh5 Kh4 10.Kg1 Bd5





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