Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 13:12:41 12/28/03
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On December 27, 2003 at 20:45:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 27, 2003 at 19:00:30, Daniel Clausen wrote: > >>On December 27, 2003 at 14:05:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On December 27, 2003 at 12:36:32, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >>> >>>>On December 27, 2003 at 09:04:05, Sune Fischer wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 27, 2003 at 04:58:51, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>4) Even with a 1:10 or 1:8 advantage crafty only barely manages to catch up or >>>>>>beat these top order programs - so not much of a chance if they show up with the >>>>>>above mentioned machines. >>>>> >>>>>I believe you are jumping to conclusions with "not much of a chance.." :) >>>>> >>>>>Crafty seems to be more than just barely holding on, it seems to be winning >>>>>these matches at 8-10x speed advantage. >>>>>That would mean Crafty still has chances even with "only" a 4x speed advantage. >>>>> >>>>>I'm not saying it would be a favorite but it's enough of a lottery to say that >>>>>there are chances, and who knows what kind of hardware Bob could get his hands >>>>>on ;) >>>>> >>>>>-S. >>>>>>Mridul >>>> >>>>True - a good opening line which is favourale to crafty - and it could win even >>>>with a 1 : 2 disadvantage :) >>>>But it should be a good line - and this is like a jackpot - we cant count on >>>>this ;) >>>>On a even position - with lots of possibilities (not one of those dead drawn >>>>boring opening lines) - it would be tougher. >>>>If 1:8 just barely helps - then 1:4 is going to be a real challenge - also note >>>>- it is going to be lower than 1:4 - not even 1:4 >>>> >>>>Mridul >>> >>>That's wrong. Pick your current box. I can _certainly_ find something that >>>will be 4x faster than any box that showed up at the WCCC this year. And that >>>is the reference point for this "test"... "would crafty be competitive." >> >>If they knew you'd show up they would also have got different hardware. :-D >> >>Sargon > > >It's not quite that easy. A couple had the fastest thing available from Intel >SMP already... Going to something non-Intel is non-trivial... No, no one had the fastest thing intel has. Don't spit such idiotic crap here. A trivial machine from intel that's very fast and also used by NASA is a 256 processor INTEL altix3000 from of course SGI. In Netherlands we have a 416 processor altix3700, biggest partition at the moment is 64 processors (means you can use 60 processors in theory 62). The supercluster partition is 256 processors which might get single image too. There is however also way bigger intel machines, but non shared memory. there are also 32 processor IBM machines with itanium2 processors from intel. there is also the superdome from HP with intel itanium2 processors and a great spec compiler. When speaking about shared bus, there is excellent 8 processor intel machines to just name one. all that is of course faster than 4 processor quad xeon. But i expect for the world champs 2004 that several will show up with faster hardware than quad xeon.
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