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Subject: Re: Today Fritz 8 finds 3...Bh3 =(0.00) but yesterday only =(0.12) ???

Author: Brian Katz

Date: 17:18:42 12/28/03

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On December 27, 2003 at 14:11:55, Slater Wold wrote:

>On December 27, 2003 at 09:09:57, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>>On December 27, 2003 at 01:08:07, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On December 27, 2003 at 00:51:11, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>[d]8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>P4 2.0Ghz(m):
>>>
>>>New game
>>>8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Deep Fritz 8:
>>>
>>>1...Ra1+!
>>>  ±  (1.35)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  19kN
>>>1...Ra1+!
>>>  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  20kN
>>>1...Ra1+!
>>>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  21kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  23kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/11   00:00:00  27kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/15   00:00:00  40kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/16   00:00:00  63kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/17   00:00:00  155kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/18   00:00:00  292kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/19   00:00:00  538kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/21   00:00:01  970kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/21   00:00:02  2101kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 16/23   00:00:04  3913kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17/25   00:00:09  7612kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/26   00:00:16  14406kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 19/29   00:00:33  29512kN
>>>
>>>(,  27.12.2003)
>>
>>Maybe Deep Fritz 8 is improved after all :)
>>
>>Athlon 2400+ (2GHz)
>>
>>Fritz 8
>>8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  14kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  24kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Be4 6.Ke3 Bd5 7.Bd3
>>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:00  44kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Be4 6.Ke3 Bd5 7.Bd3
>>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:00  77kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Bf3
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 11/17   00:00:00  244kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Be2 Bxg2+ 5.Kf2 Bf1 6.Bd1 Bg2 7.Bb3 Bd5 8.Bxd5
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 12/21   00:00:00  465kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Be2 Bxg2+ 5.Kf2 Bf1 6.Bd1 Be2 7.Bb3 Bc4 8.Bxc4
>>Kh6 9.h4 Kg7
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 13/21   00:00:01  1067kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Be2 Bxg2+ 5.Kf2 Bf1 6.Bd1 Be2 7.Ba4 Bb5 8.Bc2
>>Bd3
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 14/23   00:00:02  2054kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Bd1 Kh4
>>  =  (0.09)   Depth: 15/24   00:00:05  4100kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Bd1 Bf3
>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 16/25   00:00:10  7940kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Bf1
>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 17/27   00:00:21  17182kN
>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Bf1
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/28   00:00:37  30919kN
>>
>>However! Using selectivity = 3, Fritz 8 finds it in 1 second. What are the
>>engine parameters for Deep Fritz 8? The parameters for Fritz 8 (default) are:
>
>
>Contempt value     0
>Selectivity        2
>Tablebase depth    3
>Futility pruning   check
>Aggressiveness     2
>Everything else    0
>
>It is *much* improved.

This is very odd.
I again set up this position for Fritz 8 (Fritz 8 GUI)AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 1 GIG
DDR SDRAM Hash set at 512. I changed the Selectivity to 3 and Presto, Fritz 8
immediately found 1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3! to be a DRAW with an
=(0.00)evaluation rather than the =(0.12)and then down to =(0.06)as it did
yesterday.

What is ODD is that I set the Selectivity back to the Default setting of 2 and
it still evaluated the position as =(0.00) from the very beginning.
I then closed out of Fritz and booted it back up again, and it still evaluates
the position correctly as =(0.00) rather than =(0.12)as it did yesterday.

Has anyone experienced this flucuation with programs from one day to the next ??

Brian








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