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Subject: Re: Pardon my ignorance...I accidently had the Tablebases on.

Author: Brian Katz

Date: 18:17:02 12/28/03

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On December 28, 2003 at 20:18:42, Brian Katz wrote:

>On December 27, 2003 at 14:11:55, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On December 27, 2003 at 09:09:57, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On December 27, 2003 at 01:08:07, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 27, 2003 at 00:51:11, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>[d]8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>P4 2.0Ghz(m):
>>>>
>>>>New game
>>>>8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Analysis by Deep Fritz 8:
>>>>
>>>>1...Ra1+!
>>>>  ±  (1.35)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  19kN
>>>>1...Ra1+!
>>>>  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  20kN
>>>>1...Ra1+!
>>>>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  21kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  23kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/11   00:00:00  27kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/15   00:00:00  40kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/16   00:00:00  63kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/17   00:00:00  155kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/18   00:00:00  292kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/19   00:00:00  538kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/21   00:00:01  970kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/21   00:00:02  2101kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 16/23   00:00:04  3913kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17/25   00:00:09  7612kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/26   00:00:16  14406kN
>>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.gxh3 Kh4 5.Bg2 Kh5 6.Kf2 Kh6 7.Kf1
>>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 19/29   00:00:33  29512kN
>>>>
>>>>(,  27.12.2003)
>>>
>>>Maybe Deep Fritz 8 is improved after all :)
>>>
>>>Athlon 2400+ (2GHz)
>>>
>>>Fritz 8
>>>8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>>
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1
>>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:00  14kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2
>>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  24kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Be4 6.Ke3 Bd5 7.Bd3
>>>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:00  44kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Be4 6.Ke3 Bd5 7.Bd3
>>>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:00  77kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Bf3
>>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 11/17   00:00:00  244kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Be2 Bxg2+ 5.Kf2 Bf1 6.Bd1 Bg2 7.Bb3 Bd5 8.Bxd5
>>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 12/21   00:00:00  465kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Be2 Bxg2+ 5.Kf2 Bf1 6.Bd1 Be2 7.Bb3 Bc4 8.Bxc4
>>>Kh6 9.h4 Kg7
>>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 13/21   00:00:01  1067kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Be2 Bxg2+ 5.Kf2 Bf1 6.Bd1 Be2 7.Ba4 Bb5 8.Bc2
>>>Bd3
>>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 14/23   00:00:02  2054kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Bd1 Kh4
>>>  =  (0.09)   Depth: 15/24   00:00:05  4100kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Bd1 Bf3
>>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 16/25   00:00:10  7940kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Bf1
>>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 17/27   00:00:21  17182kN
>>>1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3 4.Kf2 Bxg2 5.Be2 Bf1
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/28   00:00:37  30919kN
>>>
>>>However! Using selectivity = 3, Fritz 8 finds it in 1 second. What are the
>>>engine parameters for Deep Fritz 8? The parameters for Fritz 8 (default) are:
>>
>>
>>Contempt value     0
>>Selectivity        2
>>Tablebase depth    3
>>Futility pruning   check
>>Aggressiveness     2
>>Everything else    0
>>
>>It is *much* improved.
>
>This is very odd.
>I again set up this position for Fritz 8 (Fritz 8 GUI)AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 1 GIG
>DDR SDRAM Hash set at 512. I changed the Selectivity to 3 and Presto, Fritz 8
>immediately found 1...Ra1+ 2.Rf1 Rxf1+ 3.Kxf1 Bh3! to be a DRAW with an
>=(0.00)evaluation rather than the =(0.12)and then down to =(0.06)as it did
>yesterday.
>
>What is ODD is that I set the Selectivity back to the Default setting of 2 and
>it still evaluated the position as =(0.00) from the very beginning.
>I then closed out of Fritz and booted it back up again, and it still evaluates
>the position correctly as =(0.00) rather than =(0.12)as it did yesterday.
>
>Has anyone experienced this flucuation with programs from one day to the next ??
>
>Brian

I changed the Selectivity setting to 3,4,5 and 6 and still Fritz 8 did not
evaluate the position as = (0.00)

Brian



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