Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:32:17 12/28/03
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On December 28, 2003 at 20:55:34, K. Burcham wrote: >On December 28, 2003 at 19:51:45, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 28, 2003 at 00:26:44, K. Burcham wrote: >> >>> >>>interesting article on the dual core AMD. >>>what do you think about these numbers. maybe too optimistic? >>> >>>based on Crafty 19.8 benchmarks posted here. >>>If the 248 opteron will get 1640 knps, >>>If the dual 248 will get 2296 knps, >> >>These are bad. IE the dual 248 comes very close to doubling the >>nps of the single 248, based on the 1-2-4 846 numbers I posted here >>a couple of weeks ago. >> >>>If the future dual core AMD gets 2296 knps, >> >> >>It should do better than that. Whether it will equal a dual 84x is >>speculation (but not likely) but it ought to get reasonably decent >>performance. IE close to 2x... >> >> >>>then maybe the dual core in smp will get 3214. >> >> >>two dual-cores ought to be within spitting distance of four single >>processors, the question is how much will the memory contention for >>a single controller impact performance... > > >The AMD 64 has 105.9 million transistors now with a die size of 190mm. >I know they plan on another shrink soon, but if AMD is going to put 211.8 >million transistors on a single die, then it would seem there are many issues. >the processor would be large with 211.8 million on one processor. >maybe only commercial. >maybe no ATX motherboard, server. >no ATX power supply, server. >four processors in one case, several fans, noise. >large ram, maybe 2-4 gigs or more, expensive. >for the home builders, this may be too expensive. > >kburcham > There are alternatives. IE the first big Intel chip was the Pentium Pro. They used a dual-cavity carrier so that the L2 cache could be on a second piece of silicon, but still very close to the CPU. AMD could do that if they like that approach. Solves the huge transistor count problem... > > > > >> >> >> >>> >>>http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13344 >>> >>>kburcham
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