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Subject: Re: do all programs see this draw here.... another position

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:24:33 12/29/03

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On December 29, 2003 at 01:53:43, martin fierz wrote:

>On December 28, 2003 at 10:46:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 28, 2003 at 04:46:07, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On December 27, 2003 at 00:51:11, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>[d]8/r7/8/5bk1/8/5B2/5RPP/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>for all programs that instantly saw the draw in mike's
>>>position, this may be interesting too (of course only
>>>without tablebases): white to move and win, a study by
>>>J. Vancura 1922, which is also on the chessbase site.
>>>
>>>[d]8/8/8/8/8/2K4B/5k1P/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>the point is that although black's king is in the
>>>square of the white pawn, he can never get through
>>>to the h-file. programs which are too speculative about
>>>"wrong bishop => draw" might show a draw score before
>>>they see the win.
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>  martin
>>
>>
>>Mine _never_ says draw in this position:
>
>nice. as i suspected, this can confuse programs, as the result of ruffian shows
>- it says draw at shallow depths. you seem to have implemented the wrong bishop
>thing better than per-ola ;-)
>
>cheers
>  martin

Ruffian Evaluates Be6 Kg2 as a draw and I guess that the reason is that the king
controls the square after the pawn.

I guess that Ruffian probably evaluates positions when the king controls a
square that the pawn can advance to it as a draw in KBP vs K type positions.

Here is another example for Ruffian's wrong evaluation and it says 0.00 in small
depthes.

[D]8/8/5K1k/8/7P/1B5P/7P/8 w - - 0 1

Uri



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