Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: I agree too - Crafty has no chances to win

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 09:38:56 12/29/03

Go up one level in this thread


On December 28, 2003 at 22:06:59, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On December 28, 2003 at 19:58:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 28, 2003 at 16:48:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 27, 2003 at 11:58:58, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>It's not clear who is +5 here,
>>>
>>>but whatever the side that is +5, let's consider
>>>
>>>  a) hardware dated 1996/1997
>>>
>>>playing hardware dated 2002/2003
>>>
>>>  b) a public book used for junior
>>>
>>>this where everyone knows the junior style is unique and requires certain
>>>positions to get a full point.
>>>
>>>  c) everyone testing at home junior is completely killing it with their
>>>tournament books and newer versions. Even falcon scores 60%. Diep 95% (one
>>>draw). Others reported similar % at home against it. Crafty gets about 50%
>>>against the public version having a 10 times hardware advantage against a
>>>crippled junior as it doesn't get through the tactical barrier.
>>>
>>>So let's first consider that at world champs
>>>  a) crafty gets killed in book
>>>  b) it is equal hardware, despite all BS stories he tells here it
>>>     won't work in 2005 either at those supercomputers of course
>>>  c) junior gets above the tactical barrier
>>>
>>>End of crafty.
>>>
>>>And *that's* why Bob doesn't show up at world champs, whatever nonsense he tells
>>>here. Everyone who has a chance to win there will show up!
>>
>>Then should we not ask "Why do _you_ bother showing up?"  You clearly
>>don't have a chance of winning.  Based on lots of past tournaments.
>>
>>So I suppose I _completely_ fail to understand your point, assuming you
>>actually _have_ a point beside just knocking a program you can't beat...
>
>I have to more or less agree with Vincent here.  The simple fact of the matter
>is that every circumstance was stacked in Crafty's favor, and it barely won.
>
>If
>
>10x speed difference + Opponent runs at 40/5 min + public book = barely winning
>
>then
>
>4x speed difference + Opponent runs at 40/2 hrs + private book = crafty crushed
>
>anthony

I do agree too.

Crafty has no realistic chances to win a WCCC.

Sandro



This page took 0.03 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.