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Subject: Re: I disagree

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:43:18 12/29/03

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On December 29, 2003 at 13:23:33, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On December 29, 2003 at 12:46:47, Luis Smith wrote:
>
>>>I do agree too.
>>>
>>>Crafty has no realistic chances to win a WCCC.
>>>
>>>Sandro
>>
>>IMO only Bob can know this for sure.  I think people either over estimate the
>>commercials, or underestimate Crafty.  After all at the WCCC's only 11 games
>>were played, who knows what could have happened in that time, especially with
>>the kind of hardware that Dr. Hyatt could get.
>
>No, Bob does not know this.
>He is a "little outdated" on this matter.
>
>At the 2003 WCCC there were 3 favorites (Shredder, Fritz and Junior), 2 possible
>outsiders (Brutus and Diep).
>
>Based on my experience I gave these chances, before the tournament started:
>
>Shredder 35% (because of the slower hardware)
>Fritz    30%
>Junior   25%
>Brutus    7%
>Diep      3%
>rest      0%

I think that it is too risky to give 0% chances for all the rest when you do not
know what the programmers did.

How could you know that Deep Sjeng had no chances?
After the tournament you know but not before it.

Did you know details about other programs like Jonny before the tournament?

How could you know that all the single processors are going to lose when you do
not know what the programmers did and you cannot be sure that nobody did
something clearly better than shredder.

You can guess that it is the case based on previous experience but you cannot be
sure and I think that it is better to give at least 2% chances for some
surprise.

I agree that the 5 that you mention were the favourites before the tournament
but the chances of other to win should be evaluated as at least 2%.

Uri



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