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Subject: Re: BFF Rating List: 2 Thoughts

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 13:38:59 12/29/03

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On December 29, 2003 at 16:27:06, Slater Wold wrote:

>On December 29, 2003 at 16:18:20, Mike Hood wrote:
>
>>Take a look at the end-of-year Best-for-Fritz rating list, for engines running
>>in the Fritz GUI, at
>>http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/bff-liste.htm
>>
>>I have two "doubts" about the list:
>>
>>1) At the bottom of the list is the Chessbase native engine Turing, with a
>>rating of 1572. This seems horribly inflated to me. My own "official" rating,
>>based on my league games, is 1430. I played a series of games against Turing and
>>won 8-0, no draws. My personal estimate for Turing is between 1000 and 1200. If
>>you can't trust the Elo values at the bottom of the list, how can you trust the
>>values at the top of the list? Maybe the arbitrary start value of 2600 was too
>>high. If a start value of 2400, or even 2200, had been used, a more meaningful
>>rating list would have been achieved.
>>
>>2) In 21st place there is a native Chessbase engine called List 5.12. This is
>>neither a commercial engine, nor a free engine, so is it a secret engine that
>>somebody has slipped to CSS "under the hand"? Is it the engine that was
>>disqualified at the recent computer chess tournament in Graz? Based on the
>>replies to my previous question in this forum, nobody knows where it's come
>>from, so it doesn't deserve to be included in the rating list.
>
>List 5.04 is on Chessbase's website.
>
>And yes, that was the engine that got disqualified.

List 5.04 is also in the BfF list, in 37th place. It's obviously a distinct
engine to the mystery engine List 5.12.



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