Author: Chessfun
Date: 13:56:18 12/29/03
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On December 29, 2003 at 16:18:20, Mike Hood wrote: >Take a look at the end-of-year Best-for-Fritz rating list, for engines running >in the Fritz GUI, at >http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/bff-liste.htm > >I have two "doubts" about the list: > >1) At the bottom of the list is the Chessbase native engine Turing, with a >rating of 1572. This seems horribly inflated to me. My own "official" rating, >based on my league games, is 1430. I played a series of games against Turing and >won 8-0, no draws. My personal estimate for Turing is between 1000 and 1200. If >you can't trust the Elo values at the bottom of the list, how can you trust the >values at the top of the list? Maybe the arbitrary start value of 2600 was too >high. If a start value of 2400, or even 2200, had been used, a more meaningful >rating list would have been achieved. Even were another number chosen as the start value the relative position of them to each other would remain. I am curious as to why they use the word's ELO on any list as to me that always associates with human play, as opposed to a list of programs. >2) In 21st place there is a native Chessbase engine called List 5.12. This is >neither a commercial engine, nor a free engine, so is it a secret engine that >somebody has slipped to CSS "under the hand"? Is it the engine that was >disqualified at the recent computer chess tournament in Graz? Based on the >replies to my previous question in this forum, nobody knows where it's come >from, so it doesn't deserve to be included in the rating list. It could be a beta version. There are enough "X" on the list 14, 31, 33, 42, 47, 57, 62, 67, 77, 102 that I'd personally be more interested in those especially 14.. I don't see how "X" should be included if you want to remove List 5.12. and find it odd you would mention List without mentioning "X". There is even a Gandalf X 4-03 in 32. Personally I don't see the point in listing any beta versions on any rating list in this case that would include all the above. Sarah.
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