Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 16:23:28 12/29/03
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On December 29, 2003 at 19:08:12, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On December 29, 2003 at 17:28:46, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On December 29, 2003 at 15:47:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>I'm not exactly sure what your point is, we are not talking about humans. >> >>I guess you are implying that Crafty is 1800 and Shredder is 2830 and so Crafty >>is without a chance. >> >>That is utter nonsense of course. >> >>In REALITY Crafty with a big hardware advantage is maybe 50 points weaker than >>Shredder, so in your human analogy that would be like Kramnik winning in front >>of Kasparov. >> >>If you play only 11 rounds it could happen. > >OK, lets do a little math. > >We know crafty on 2G P4 is about 20-30 elo stronger than Junior on a 266 >celeron. > >now, I think that: > >Using Junior's tournament book: 50 elo for Junior >2x hardware advantage rather than 10x: 80 elo for Junior >4xP4 vs 266 celery: 80 elo for Junior > >Suddenly its game over for Crafty. > >So the question is: which of those statements do you disagree with? I'm assuming Bob can scale Crafty's hardware advantage to keep up, ie. that he could get a 16 or 32 node machine to use against the quads. The only worry is if there is diminishing returns or some pratical problems in using so many CPUs. I do not believe in all that nonsense about tactical barriers, so I think it will mainly be the technical challenge of it. About the book I don't believe in 50 elo. If Bob uses his normal tailor made book full of ICC learning I think it can hold its own, it may even be better than a book full of abstract theory the engine doesn't understand. -S. >anthony
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