Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 22:00:01 12/29/03
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On December 29, 2003 at 19:08:12, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On December 29, 2003 at 17:28:46, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On December 29, 2003 at 15:47:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>I'm not exactly sure what your point is, we are not talking about humans. >> >>I guess you are implying that Crafty is 1800 and Shredder is 2830 and so Crafty >>is without a chance. >> >>That is utter nonsense of course. >> >>In REALITY Crafty with a big hardware advantage is maybe 50 points weaker than >>Shredder, so in your human analogy that would be like Kramnik winning in front >>of Kasparov. >> >>If you play only 11 rounds it could happen. > >OK, lets do a little math. > >We know crafty on 2G P4 is about 20-30 elo stronger than Junior on a 266 >celeron. > >now, I think that: > >Using Junior's tournament book: 50 elo for Junior I disagree with the above first. No explanation required. IE in a simple case, I play e3 and then e4 as white which lets me play "black". There are plenty of other ways to avoid deep book lines. >2x hardware advantage rather than 10x: 80 elo for Junior I disagree there secondly. IE I could _certainly_ have produced an 8-way opteron. That is _way_ more than 2x faster than the best 4-way box around (non-opteron and there were no 4-way opterons at Graz). >4xP4 vs 266 celery: 80 elo for Junior I have no idea what that means. You've already counted that once in your previous line. So I won't even try to figure out that. > >Suddenly its game over for Crafty. > >So the question is: which of those statements do you disagree with? The one right above this question, for starters. I've played Junior in CCT events, for example. It wasn't "game over" if you look back. You are generalizing and extrapolating _way_ beyond reason, IMHO. > >anthony
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