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Subject: Re: I disagree

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 23:00:20 12/29/03

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On December 29, 2003 at 14:26:19, Daniel Clausen wrote:

>On December 29, 2003 at 13:23:33, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On December 29, 2003 at 12:46:47, Luis Smith wrote:
>>
>>>>I do agree too.
>>>>
>>>>Crafty has no realistic chances to win a WCCC.
>>>>
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>IMO only Bob can know this for sure.  I think people either over estimate the
>>>commercials, or underestimate Crafty.  After all at the WCCC's only 11 games
>>>were played, who knows what could have happened in that time, especially with
>>>the kind of hardware that Dr. Hyatt could get.
>>
>>No, Bob does not know this.
>>He is a "little outdated" on this matter.
>>
>>At the 2003 WCCC there were 3 favorites (Shredder, Fritz and Junior), 2 possible
>>outsiders (Brutus and Diep).
>>
>>Based on my experience I gave these chances, before the tournament started:
>>
>>Shredder 35% (because of the slower hardware)
>>Fritz    30%
>>Junior   25%
>>Brutus    7%
>>Diep      3%
>>rest      0%
>
>Sure, if only you posted that _before_ the tournament. :) [and Shredder has the
>most % _because_ of the slower hardware?)

No, I did not posted this before the tournament, but I told this to a friend of
mine who asked me.

To write things here is not fun as too many people will start criticize
immediately. I do not want to win discussion battles. I want to win on the
board.

People that know me since many years, as I have been writing computer chess
articles on Italian magazines for more than 10 years, ask me and think I am
reliable.

If other people think different, it is OK. They can chose what they want.

>
>
>>Of course everybody can say anything different, but in reality this is the
>>situation.
>
>Hard to argue with this POV. :-D
>
>
>>Someone said that the WCCC is more or less a lottery.
>>OK, than can someone can explaing why since 1996 only Junior and Shredder won?
>
>I just threw a dice 5 times and came up with the numbers 3, 6, 1, 5 and 6.
>Someone said it's random numbers but I say it's not. It's 3, 6, 1, 5 and 6.
>Proof? I just did it!
>
>Sargon
>
>PS. Given the percentages above, it's highly unlikely, that only Junior and
>Shredder would win in 7 WCCC-tournaments. But envertheless they did. In a way,
>you just proved it _is_ a lottery. :)

Well, in a few games there are chances for all the programs which are close in
strenght.

This is reasonable.

Sandro



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