Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 05:38:15 12/30/03
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On December 30, 2003 at 06:26:53, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 30, 2003 at 05:38:21, Frank Phillips wrote: > >>On December 30, 2003 at 02:24:50, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >> >>>>Shredder was _given_ the win by improper behavior, >>>>when a bad programming bug should have knocked it out of the title. If Sandro >>>>is proud of that kind of title, so be it... >>> >>>I am proud of this title as we play some very good games. >>> >>>How many WCCC titles did you win? I won 4 and you? >>> >> >>This clarifies a few things. I thought the title was given to the program that >>won (fairly) most games, not the program that played best, or people thought >>should have won, or was given wins by its opponents...... >> >>BTW I was cheering for Steffan's program at the last WCCC; and was very >>disappointed, emotionally, when it drew the last game due to a bug. >> >>(BTW Which four titles did you win?). > >I also prefered Shredder and not Fritz before the bug. >I agree that Fritz deserved to be the champion but Shredder is the champion. > >I have one correction to make. >Shredder did not drew the last game but won it inspite of the bug because of a >wrong decision. > >It is the same as football. > >After the game is finished the winner team is the winner even if it can be >proved that the decision to give them the win was wrong. > >The decision could be corrected before the playoff between shredder and Fritz >but after the play off it is too late to correct it. Of course I agree with your logic. Shredder was awared the win. As a cricket fan, I am used to the umpire's judgement affecting the outcome of the game.... lbw etc. However, continuing your sporting metaphor, the Shredder win is more akin to 'match fixing' with the operator 'throwing' the game - no doubt with the best of intentions (I imply no blame whatsoever.). The TD's mistake was in not enforcing the draw or reversing the decision later. There have been self appointed assemblies in the past that have pronounced authoritatively and with self interest on more important issues, such as the Earth being flat and at the centre of the Universe. Fortunately the Universe continues oblivious to these 'facts'; and the pronouncements say more about the 'assemblies' that they do the Universe. > >I do not think that winning the world championship is the most important thing >in the world so I think that it could be better for Stefan to admit that Fritz >is the champion before the playoff and to refuse to play the playoff for the >title(if spectators are interested in a playoff of 2 games then no problem but >the playoff should not decide the title). > >I can say for stefan that I believe that most people will behave like him and >refuse to do the right thing and I do not expect to see a football team claim >that the opponent won an elimination game and refuse to continue after 90 >minutes another 30 minutes because they are sure that they got 0-0 result only >thanks to a wrong decision of the judge when they do not deserve it because it >should be 1-0 for the opponent and the judge was wrong when he canceled the 1-0 >that was exactly in the last few seconds of the game so they had no time to try >to equalize to 1-1. > >Uri
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