Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 11:32:21 12/30/03
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On December 30, 2003 at 07:09:38, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>On December 30, 2003 at 06:26:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 2003 at 05:38:21, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>On December 30, 2003 at 02:24:50, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Shredder was _given_ the win by improper behavior,
>>>>>when a bad programming bug should have knocked it out of the title. If Sandro
>>>>>is proud of that kind of title, so be it...
>>>>
>>>>I am proud of this title as we play some very good games.
>>>>
>>>>How many WCCC titles did you win? I won 4 and you?
>>>>
>>>
>>>This clarifies a few things. I thought the title was given to the program that
>>>won (fairly) most games, not the program that played best, or people thought
>>>should have won, or was given wins by its opponents......
>>>
>>>BTW I was cheering for Steffan's program at the last WCCC; and was very
>>>disappointed, emotionally, when it drew the last game due to a bug.
>>>
>>>(BTW Which four titles did you win?).
>1995
1999 Paderborn dual P3-550 if i remember well against a bunch
of supercomputers and fritz,junior,diep,ferret at quad xeons
>2000
>2001 on single processor.
nah junior won the event.
>2003
>
>>
>>I also prefered Shredder and not Fritz before the bug.
>>I agree that Fritz deserved to be the champion but Shredder is the champion.
>>
>
>You are one of the few that believes that. I respect your opinion. R. Hyatt does
>not respect the other people opinion if different from his opinion.
>Stangely enough he is American...from the country of the freedom...
>
>>I have one correction to make.
>>Shredder did not drew the last game but won it inspite of the bug because of a
>>wrong decision.
>>
>>It is the same as football.
>>
>>After the game is finished the winner team is the winner even if it can be
>>proved that the decision to give them the win was wrong.
>>
>>The decision could be corrected before the playoff between shredder and Fritz
>>but after the play off it is too late to correct it.
>>
>>I do not think that winning the world championship is the most important thing
>>in the world so
>
>Did I say the opposite?
>
>>I think that it could be better for Stefan to admit that Fritz
>>is the champion before the playoff and to refuse to play the playoff for the
>>title(if spectators are interested in a playoff of 2 games then no problem but
>>the playoff should not decide the title).
>
>I do not agree as what happened before was allowed. You can think otherwise, it
>is your problem.
>If Fritz deserved the title should have won the playoff.
>Last year Junior won the playoff and deserved the title.
>
>>
>>I can say for stefan that I believe that most people will behave like him and
>>refuse to do the right thing and I do not expect to see a football team claim
>>that the opponent won an elimination game and refuse to continue after 90
>>minutes another 30 minutes because they are sure that they got 0-0 result only
>>thanks to a wrong decision of the judge when they do not deserve it because it
>>should be 1-0 for the opponent and the judge was wrong when he canceled the 1-0
>>that was exactly in the last few seconds of the game so they had no time to try
>>to equalize to 1-1.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Sandro
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