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Subject: Re: Conclusion(Amir Ban,Christophe Theron please respond)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 19:38:55 12/30/03

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On December 30, 2003 at 20:43:24, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 30, 2003 at 14:33:10, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>>On December 30, 2003 at 11:49:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>But tournaments where people are allowed to use any hardware
>>>they can find (non-uniform platform tournaments) are a pure
>>>nonsense.
>>
>>I posted about that several times, last time probably 2 weeks ago. In short:
>>would you be happy if organizers provide to every participant 16-way Itanium2
>>system, and insist that all programs will run on that hardware? That is uniform
>>hardware tournament, right?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Eugene
>>
>>>    Christophe
>
>
>
>Don't ask me. Ask the users, I mean the people who are interested in computer
>chess and who purchase chess programs, on what kind of hardware they want the
>tournament to be run.
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Just like they want their favourite formula 1 pilot have the best equipment and
the best possible preparation, they want the chessprogram to have the best
equipment and fight under the best possible circumstances.

In fact no cost is high enough for their local soccerteam. The local soccerteam
in this town costs a year more than all cpu time has cost that diep ever has
used for any tournament i played in.

By the way i paid nothing for that except a year fulltime work. If you see a
year fulltime work as $100k (pretty expensive for a programmerin europe by the
way) then still the local soccer team eats magnitudes more money.

Just like they want for their soccerteam the best possible conditions and better
players (bigger stronger meaner some are capable of parallel soccer: playing
both with right and left feet the ball when the circumstance is there).

Even better is our formula driver Jos Verstappen. His team has a budget of only
20 million dollar a year. Against that Ferrari eats hundreds of millions of
dollars a year for Michael Schumacher. Of course the number 2 i have already
'forgotten'. Just the best guy counts.

That best guy has the best equipment and the best hardware and the best possible
car.

Now you, are you giving your users what they want? A parallel program.

Every P4 around the corner has HT nowadays. So it has 2 logical cpu's.

See www.aceshardware.com what i give my users. If they put all memory banks full
of memory (that's the trick) they will get a decent speedup out of it with DIEP.

I heard there is shredder too which runs parallel, fritz, sjeng, junior, the
baron and next year i expect another 20 engines being parallel. From about 8 i
know they are busy converting to parallel and speaking to everyone is hard
nowadays there is so many engines...

When does Tiger get parallel?





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