Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:44:01 12/30/03
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On December 30, 2003 at 14:43:41, Uri Blass wrote: > >Diminishing returns does not mean that searching deeper does not help. > >The tactical barrier exists only in your imagination. Almost everything he knows exists only there. :) >> >>I quoted 12-14 ply always for this. >> >>Now Fritz has a bigger evaluatoin function than crafty. Frans told it's *a lot* >>bigger than what crafty has. > >The question is about quality and not about size. >I doubt if Junior has bigger evaluation than Crafty. > >> >>Don Dailey in selfplay experiments, also at small depths already, clearly showed >>diminishing returns. >> >>All the big tournametns where crafty and you do not show up, show to the >>commercial participants clearly that another ply deeper doesn't count when >>compared to improving evaluation function. > >No > >They prove nothing. >I also think that the commercial programs have superior search so it is not >competition between search and evaluation. > >> >>In fact the only reason GCP can shout victory now about diep-sjeng is a very >>stupid thing my evaluation caused (Qb3??). I could that game not complain about >>search depth with 512 cpu's! > >It only prove that bigger is not better and your evaluation was bigger than the >opponents but the opponents had always better evaluation. > >Uri Ouch. There is a comment _I_ would have been proud to write here. :) "the biggest evaluation of any computer chess program" :%s/evaluation/pile of crap/g :)
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