Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 01:07:10 12/31/03
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On December 30, 2003 at 14:32:21, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On December 30, 2003 at 07:09:38, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On December 30, 2003 at 06:26:53, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On December 30, 2003 at 05:38:21, Frank Phillips wrote: >>> >>>>On December 30, 2003 at 02:24:50, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Shredder was _given_ the win by improper behavior, >>>>>>when a bad programming bug should have knocked it out of the title. If Sandro >>>>>>is proud of that kind of title, so be it... >>>>> >>>>>I am proud of this title as we play some very good games. >>>>> >>>>>How many WCCC titles did you win? I won 4 and you? >>>>> >>>> >>>>This clarifies a few things. I thought the title was given to the program that >>>>won (fairly) most games, not the program that played best, or people thought >>>>should have won, or was given wins by its opponents...... >>>> >>>>BTW I was cheering for Steffan's program at the last WCCC; and was very >>>>disappointed, emotionally, when it drew the last game due to a bug. >>>> >>>>(BTW Which four titles did you win?). Hi Vincent, First of all I wish you a wonderful 2004! I am happy that you are back in this forum. You are a strong chess player and a good programmer, so it is worth to have you here! > 1995 (M-Chess Pro. 5.0) >1999 Paderborn dual P3-550 if i remember well against a bunch > of supercomputers and fritz,junior,diep,ferret at quad xeons 2000 (Shredder) 2001 Paderborn (Shredder) 2001 on single processor. >nah junior won the event. Yes, but the title on single processor was awarded. > 2003 (Shredder) >> >>> >>>I also prefered Shredder and not Fritz before the bug. >>>I agree that Fritz deserved to be the champion but Shredder is the champion. >>> >> >>You are one of the few that believes that. I respect your opinion. R. Hyatt does >>not respect the other people opinion if different from his opinion. >>Stangely enough he is American...from the country of the freedom... >> >>>I have one correction to make. >>>Shredder did not drew the last game but won it inspite of the bug because of a >>>wrong decision. >>> >>>It is the same as football. >>> >>>After the game is finished the winner team is the winner even if it can be >>>proved that the decision to give them the win was wrong. >>> >>>The decision could be corrected before the playoff between shredder and Fritz >>>but after the play off it is too late to correct it. >>> >>>I do not think that winning the world championship is the most important thing >>>in the world so >> >>Did I say the opposite? >> >>>I think that it could be better for Stefan to admit that Fritz >>>is the champion before the playoff and to refuse to play the playoff for the >>>title(if spectators are interested in a playoff of 2 games then no problem but >>>the playoff should not decide the title). >> >>I do not agree as what happened before was allowed. You can think otherwise, it >>is your problem. >>If Fritz deserved the title should have won the playoff. >>Last year Junior won the playoff and deserved the title. >> >>> >>>I can say for stefan that I believe that most people will behave like him and >>>refuse to do the right thing and I do not expect to see a football team claim >>>that the opponent won an elimination game and refuse to continue after 90 >>>minutes another 30 minutes because they are sure that they got 0-0 result only >>>thanks to a wrong decision of the judge when they do not deserve it because it >>>should be 1-0 for the opponent and the judge was wrong when he canceled the 1-0 >>>that was exactly in the last few seconds of the game so they had no time to try >>>to equalize to 1-1. >>> >>>Uri >> Sandro
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