Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 18:09:46 12/31/03
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On December 31, 2003 at 19:21:35, Ed Trice wrote:
>Think about what a 2900 rating signifies: basically, you could spank a mere 2500
>rated player indefinitely, never incurring a loss yourself.
>
>As it would play against 2600 or 2700 caliber players, losses would occur.
>Against 2800 rated opponents (pretty tough to find) a 2900 program would still
>finish ahead at the end of a long match.
>
>Before a program could make an honest claim at being 2900, I think the team
>would have to scrape up some money and get Gary Kasparov to play a 40 game match
>with it. The terms would have to be steep to get the most out of Gary, such as
>is he loses he could only play checkers from now on, and if he wins he gets to
>have Pamela Anderson for a year plus about $20 million in spending money.
Pamela Anderson!?...
Is it supposed to be some kind of reward?! Yuk! I'd better suck silicon (mmh...
maybe that's what you meant?).
Hint: happy new year to Neferteri Sheperd
(http://playmates.chrisos.com/Neferteri_Sheperd/Sea/).
(...don't try this at home)
Christophe (3rd glass of Champagne, I know that's not an excuse...)
>>All the top programs now are staggering compared to some years back, and
>>Shredder 8, and DFritz 8, seem about to be first and second. Even if something
>>else jumps up, like Ruffian or one of the known ones with a great new upgrade,
>>how much can we really expect something to outshine the others any more?
>> We already see that some of the previous greatest programmers, don't make the
>>very top anymore, and there is a decent margin between Shredder, Fritz, and all
>>the others. And it has never yet been seen that a program or human has passed
>>2850. So it will probably not happen! Certainly not 2900!
>> How could it happen? It would mean that simply no machine or human has a clue
>>as to what to do about that particular program.
>>Let's say that everything was done without all the bug problems, and the best of
>>what is possible, all in one program. The most it might reach might be
>>....according to ssdf....... 2900. Top humans will still understand things quite
>>a bit better than any machine, but will only need to be very careful and wise.
>>So machines will only be super, beyond human comprehension, in atleast 10 years
>>from now, if other computer potentialities are unleashed, which have not yet
>>been explored. Until then, they cannot surpass 2900, or human understanding.
>>So there's hardly any room left for a new program to be REALLY unimaginable, as
>>had been in the past.
>>OR?
>>S.Taylor
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