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Subject: Re: Shredder 7.04 UCI and TBs

Author: Brian Katz

Date: 07:49:56 01/01/04

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On January 01, 2004 at 03:35:01, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On December 31, 2003 at 20:40:33, Robson V CorrĂȘa wrote:
>
>>Happy new year for all!!!!
>>
>>I have a question: It's seems very clear to me that the UCI version of Shredder
>>7.04 dont use tablebases without a kind aditional config file. The fact is
>>Shredder don't report to GUI, because we don't see the tablebases numbers in
>>search lines.
>>
>>Can anyone help us to resolve this situation?
>>
>>Regards!
>>Robon Versiano CorrĂȘa
>
>
>
>[D]8/8/K6p/6p1/8/8/k5PP/8 w - - 0 1
>Of course does Shredder 7.04 UCI also use the endgame tablebases
>as you can see below. The output does not give EGTB access but
>without EGTB this position would not solved within seconds:
>
>Shredder 7.04  UCI: (P4 1.8/64 MB hash under Arean 1.02)
> 1   00:00  0.16   Kb5
> 1   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 2   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 3   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 4   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 5   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 6   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 7   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 8   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
> 9   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>10   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>11   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>12   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>13   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>14   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>15   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>16   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>17   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>18   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>19   00:00  M29  g4 Ka3
>20   00:05  M29  g4 Ka3
>21   00:09  M29  g4 Ka3

You are correct Kurt. Without Tablebases, this endgame would not be solved so
quickly.
The only way this works for me, is to rename the Tablebase folder to whatever
( I just add an extra letter "S" at the end of "Tablebasess" like so, so it
won't find the folder) (Unchecking "Use Tablebases" does not work for me with
the Fritz 8 Program)
I tested this with Ruffian 1.0.1., Crafty 19.06 find it in 29, Hiarcs 8 finds it
in 30.
What I find curious, is that Fritz 8 does not find the Mate in 29 or even find
a mate at all. At least in any reasonable amount of time. I am still testing
that while I am sending this post.
I am using an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 1 Gig DDR SDRAM.
I have seen this happen a number of time with Fritz engines in various
positions. Not counting some with Fritz 5.32, which 5.32 at times find very
quickly. Not in this case, however.

What is your opinion on Fritz 8 ?



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