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Subject: Re: Fritz8 has trouble solving some positions. Fresh analysis each move

Author: Brian Katz

Date: 08:36:42 01/01/04

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On January 01, 2004 at 11:17:32, Brian Katz wrote:

>I have found that Fritz 8 (8.0.0.8 and 8.0.0.23)has trouble solving some
>positions that other engines solve in a matter of seconds. Such is the case with
>the recent position:
>
>[D]8/8/K6p/6p1/8/8/k5PP/8 w
>
>Of course Tablebases are needed to find the mate in 29, which is the case with
>Ruffian, Yace and Crafty 19.06. Hiarcs finds it in 30.
>
>Fritz 8.0.0.8 did not find it at all as yet. Fritz 8.0.0.23 just found it as I
>am sending this post after 00:08:26, but it shows mate in 31 instead.
>Once Fritz 8 finds a mate, it seems to end it's search whereas, some other
>engines continue to search and find quicker mates.
>
>Any and all opinions welcomed.
>Brian

I have also found that with other engines, once the mate is found, you can
simply force the engine to move and play over the entire sequence of moves, such
as the mate in 29 in the above position. Not so with Fritz 8 (8.0.0.23) This may
be the case with 8.0.0.8 also, but that engine has yet to find the mate at all
it this position. !! This time it found the mate in   00 :05:16  ....  then when
I forced it to move, it began the evaluation all over again from the new move
on.
Very TIME CONSUMING
If you force the first few moves of this mating in 29 sequence, then Fritz
starts to find the mate quickly, but it seems to flucuate from mating moves to
just winning evaluations and then back and forth. Then it plays mates in less
than 29 by not giving the best replies for Black.
Brian



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