Author: Robin Smith
Date: 21:27:35 01/05/04
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On January 05, 2004 at 20:22:49, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 05, 2004 at 18:20:32, Robin Smith wrote: > >>On January 05, 2004 at 15:31:34, Albert Silver wrote: >> >>>On January 05, 2004 at 14:51:47, Robin Smith wrote: >>> >>>>On January 05, 2004 at 13:16:05, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>>although I also think: >>>>>>1) The CB GUI is, as you mention below, more attractive. This is not a small >>>>>>thing, the CA chess boards are not nearly as comfortable to look at for long >>>>>>periods of time. Of course if you set it up and walk away this doesn't matter so >>>>>>much. >>>>>>2) The CB GUI is easier to learn. One example out of hundreds of easier to >>>>>>learn... >>>>> >>>>>Please share another dozen from those hundreds. >>>>> >>>>>cutting a position to the clipboard in CB it is just the windows >>>>>>standard, <ctrl> C, rather than the harder to remember <ctrl> \ of CA. >>>>> >>>>>Actually the correct default shortcut is Ctrl-Ins (this is a standard Windows >>>>>shortcut BTW), >>>> >>>>In CA when you switch from list mode to view mode, and are looking at a game, >>>>crtl-ins does nothing with the clipboard. Only ctrl \ works. ctrl-ins only works >>>>when you go through additional steps. Plus why does CA even have different ways >>>>of cutting to the clipboard? More complexity and another example of harder to >>>>learn. >>>> >>>>>but you are welcome to change any shortcut you dislike, not to >>>>>mention add your own, by going to the Tools menu and selecting "Record View >>>>>Shortcuts...". >>>> >>>>Right, more complexity that would not even be needed if they CA used the windows standard. >>> >>>First of all, Ctrl-Ins and Shift-Ins *are* Windows standards. Go ahead and try >>>them. Highlight some of this text here and instead of Ctrl-C use Ctrl-Ins, then >>>paste it somewhere with Shift-Ins. >>> >>>Second of all, I was unable to reproduce your problem, so perhaps there is a >>>special series of conditions involved. I had a List of games open and I then >>>chose a game and double-clicked on it. I then pressed Ctrl-Ins and pasted it in >>>Word without a hitch. I also varied this by highlighting a game and then >>>pressing the Enter key, and again I immediately hit Ctrl-Ins, and pasted with no >>>problems using either Shift-Ins or Ctrl-V. >>> >>>This issue existed in fact in CA5 but should not exist with CA6 or CA7. The >>>issue stemmed from the fact that the notation pane wasn't always active, and >>>there would be no cursor blinking. In such a case, the clipboard functions would >>>yield nothing, but as mentioned, this should be gone. If you can give a clear >>>way to repeat this, including what version and patch (if any), I'm sure it will >>>be eliminated extremely soon. >> >>I am using CA 7.1 build 711, but I also misspoke above. The real problem I have >>is that in some cases in CA, ctrl-ins cuts the game moves and in other cases it >>cuts the game position. Hot keys should not be context sensitive for such an >>important function. > >I´m not quite sure I follow. Ctrl-Ins when used in the View mode should always >copy the entire game into the Windows clipboard in PGN format. If it doesn´t >then something is wrong, and I´d like to know when it isn´t. Hi Albert, Yes, you are right about view mode. But when you are in the "position operations" window, Ctrl-Ins cuts the position. I guess it is a natural enough thing, but a while back it got me confused, since the help file gives that as the main way of cutting a position to the clipboard, and later when I used Ctrl-Ins in other contexts it was cutting the game (as it should) not the position. >>Robin >> >>P.S. What is your association with CA/Convekta? > >I was a designer for a while, and one of the main ones for CA6, not to mention >diverse other things, such as writing portions of the manual, designed the >multimedia tutorials included in the CA6 supplement, translated CCE into French, >etc. That would explain both your knowledge and your dedication to CA. > Albert
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