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Subject: Re: How Kortchnoi could have remained in the FIDE top 100 list (O/T)

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 09:01:22 01/07/04

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On January 07, 2004 at 09:50:39, Mark R. Anderson wrote:

>On January 07, 2004 at 08:44:36, J. C. Boco wrote:
>
>>Korchnoi continues to play even though his rating keeps dropping.
>>
>>I respect him more than any other player.
>
>I agree, I respect the "old lion" greatly also, including his aggressive play.
>Yes, he keeps playing.  Bless him, he's the real "Energizer Bunny."  Look at
>Fischer, who complained for years that the Russians did not play enough when
>they were world champs, and then when HE won, he did not play one single game in
>competition.  What a hypocrite!  I totally do not respect him (even beyond his
>offensive, anti-semitic, paranoid rants).
>
>Above all, to say that Fischer is still rated as 2780 is completely ludicrous!
>Any of the top players now would thrash him completely with little difficulty.
>Chess theory, especially the openings, have changed much in the last 30+ years.
>Also, Fischer is much older and has not played competitive chess for 32 years.
>That's a h*** of a long layoff for a world-class player!  When he beat Spassky
>(who is a nice person, which Fischer can't claim), Spassky himself at that time
>had just gone out of the top 100, and even that was 12 years ago.  Fischer's
>so-called "rating" of 2780 puts him at the level of Kramnik.  Can anyone here
>really even entertain a fleeting thought that the Fischer of right now would put
>up serious resistence against Kramnik?  And that's what ratings are supposed to
>reflect .... a player's current strength, not how they played more than 30 years
>ago.  By FIDE's logic, Muhammad Ali should be ranked #1 in boxing right now.
>
>FIDE should de-list players who have been inactive for 2 or 3 years, much less
>32.  To put a player inactive for 32 years as the #2 player in the world is an
>insult to current, competing, hard-working, world-class players, such as
>Kramnik, Anand, Shirov, Bareev, Svidler, etc.  They have demonstrated their
>great strength repeatedly and recently, not over 3 decades ago.  Well, sorry,
>enough of that .... I grow weary of "Fischer worship" when he does not deserve
>it.  Fischer played many beautiful games, but that was 32-45 years ago.  Let's
>admire (in chess terms) people like Kasparov and Kramnik who continue to put
>their reputations on the line frequently, even against our beloved chess
>programs!
>
>Mark Anderson

Thanks, Mark, I agree with everything you say. My original post was meant
sarcastically -- I've surprised Mike Byrne took it seriously -- but it did have
a serious message. I wanted to point out an inherant flaw in the way the rating
lists are compiled. If you're rating computer programs it doesn't matter much,
because Shredder 7 on identical hardware will play exactly as well this year as
it did last year. But humans are different. Great players build up their skill
over the years, reach a peak, then gradually fade away. Some fade faster than
others! When rating humans it's nonsensical to consider games older than 3 to 5
years. Robert Fischer shouldn't be in the rating list, not even as in inactive
player. Maybe if a player is absent from the chess scene for one or two years
because of illness, family pressure, living in a war zone, or whatever reason,
he can still be listed. But only for a couple of years.

P.S. I have no wish to knock Bobby Fischer or start a thread defending/attacking
him. I was just using him as an example of how the list is "wrong".



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