Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:04:29 01/08/04
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On January 08, 2004 at 09:40:58, Ed Trice wrote: >Hello Dr. Hyatt, > >> >>I too, do not believe such a patent is valid. The reasons have already been >>given. You certainly can't patent something someone else has already done, in >>some form or another. >> > >If your statement was true, I do not believe there would be any form of >progress. The airplane was patented by the Wright Brothers, and the jet engine >by someone else. > >Was not flight via an internal combustion engine pre-existing? > >What about the microwave oven? Were not conventional ovens exisiting, in some >form or other? Notice you are not talking about a _process_ but a specific _thing_. That is different here as your game is not a "thing" that can be touched, as defined. It is just a board and piece types and moves for those piece types... > >You are an expert in the artificial intelligence arena, no doubt. > >But this does not automatically qualify you for the same tier in the domain of >Patent Law. Of course it doesn't... > >You can all have your opinions, which you can back up with all of the >convictions you can muster. > >The fact remains unchanged. > >There is a patent for Gothic Chess. > >I think we have exhausted this discussion, have we not? I hope so... :) > >Licenses # 6 and 7 have been issued. Anyone else who is interested, feel free to >contact me. The Gothic Chess Computer tournament is 7 months away! > >>> >>>On January 08, 2004 at 01:48:21, Slater Wold wrote: >>> >>>>To Ed Trice, and others with concern to 'Gothic Chess': >>>> >>>>In reading some of the threads below, I was appalled by your (and your lawyer it >>>>seems) claim that you somehow 'own' the game of 'Gothic Chess'. >>>> >>>>It seems that you do hold a patent to a 'Method of playing a variant of chess', >>>>and it can be seen in its entirity at >>>>http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=6,481,716&OS=6,481,716&RS=6,481,716. >>>> >>>>This patent is absolute garbage. The USPTO made a huge and ignorant mistake by >>>>ever granting you this patent. Here's why: >>>> >>>>This game variant was discussed in MANY publications dating back to 750AD! And >>>>according to 35 U.S.C. 102 Conditions for patentability; novelty and loss of >>>>right to; A person shall be entitled to a patent unless — >>>>(a) the invention was known or used by others in this country, or patented or >>>>described in a printed publication in this or a foreign country, before the >>>>invention thereof by the applicant for patent. >>>> >>>>Now, before you say that Knighted Chess, Capablanca's Game, Dasapada, or even >>>>al-Khalil b.Ahmad differ from Gothic Chess, let's read one more paragraph; 35 >>>>U.S.C. 103 Conditions for patentability; non-obvious subject matter. >>>>(a) A patent may not be obtained though the invention is not identically >>>>disclosed or described as set forth in section 102 of this title, if the >>>>differences between the subject matter sought to be patented and the prior art >>>>are such that the subject matter as a whole would have been obvious at the time >>>>the invention was made to a person having ordinary skill in the art to which >>>>said subject matter pertains. >>>> >>>>Your patent is not valid. Plain and simple. >>>> >>>>Tomorrow, under Section 302 of 35 U.S.C., I will be asking the USPTO to >>>>reexamine your patent, with more than enough proof to sustain that you do not >>>>'own' the variant, nor the method. I still find it disgusting that you quote >>>>Capablanca in your Backgroud, yet give no mention of his ideas on changing the >>>>game. >>>> >>>> >>>>Let me make a few suggestions to you, Mr. Trice: >>>> >>>>#1. Return the money to those who you have licensed Gothic Chess to. >>>>#2. Let people ENJOY Gothic Chess, and help it flourish, without monetary >>>>involvment or threats of litigation. >>>>#3. Turn your message logger off. >>>>#4. Fire your lawyer. >>>>#5. Call your lawyer back, and fire him again. >>>> >>>> >>>>All my best, >>>> >>>> >>>>-Slate
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