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Subject: I agree 100% Hiarcs with a GOOD book is a BEAST!

Author: robert flesher

Date: 17:01:49 01/08/04

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On January 08, 2004 at 18:34:40, Stephen Ham wrote:

>On January 08, 2004 at 17:16:17, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>HIARCS X plays as “sinferno” at ICC on an AMD Athlon XP 2400+ @ 2.5GHz computer.
>>It holds the "official" ICC Blitz Record at 3604 and has the fewest losses and
>>better overall records versus strong titled players than any other computer on
>>ICC.  It has only lost five games to two titled players but has played a large
>>number of GMs, IMs and FMs.  It is currently the top engine at ICC using
>>Standard time limits.
>>
>>Why is that?  Why is it better than all the other chess engines no matter what
>>the hardware?  Is SSDF missing something here?  Is there a disconnect here?
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>Hi Bob,
>
>That's a great question, to which I'd like to learn the answer too. I don't know
>anything about the ICC; I've never been there. But a few nights ago I thought
>that it might be fun to have a 5' match (10-games) against Shredder 7.04.
>
>Although I'm bored stiff by 5' computer games, I saw value in this one since I'd
>completely overhauled Shredder's opening book to only play the lines that I play
>in Correspondence Chess. Ordinarily, at slow time controls, Shredder virtually
>ALWAYS wins. So I naturally feel smug about my opening book. ;-) Therefore I
>thought it would be fun to finally see what my book and Shredder would do to
>Hiarcs 9 at 5'. After all, Shredder 8 defeated the latest Fritz at Blitz in
>Graz.
>
>To my shock and horror, Hiarcs 9 won convincingly (I don't recall the score but
>it was probably +3). So I examined the games and saw that Hiarcs and it's goofy
>opening book actually played superior tactics than Shredder. So I repeated the
>experiment. This time the score was something like +2, favoring Hiarcs 9. Same
>story on game quality. So I prepared Shredder's opening book for some of the
>offbeat stuff that Hiarcs plays (Hiarcs repeats the same lines it has success
>with a great deal), and the next result over another 10-game match was 5-5.
>
>Conclusion: Hiarcs' 5' tactical skills seem superior to Shredder's. Also, while
>Hiarcs' opening book seems quirky (and often downright bad), Shredder seems to
>need more time to refute the stuff that Hiarcs plays. In my latest long
>time-control match and tournament, Shredder was dominant.
>
>If I get time, I'll try a long time-control match and switch opening books. I
>have a theory that Hiarcs 9 would perform better if it weren't handicapped by
>its opening book. Oddly enough, this quirky book just may be an asset at short
>time controls in that it often removes the other engine from its book, saving
>Hiarcs time on the clock. Clearly this isn't much of a factor at longer
>time-controls where quality of moves played prevails.
>
>Well, that's my 2-cents worth.
>
>All the best,
>
>Stephen



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