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Subject: Re: Simple optimization question

Author: Daniel Clausen

Date: 07:04:53 01/09/04

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On January 09, 2004 at 09:56:26, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On January 09, 2004 at 08:34:05, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On January 09, 2004 at 08:14:05, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>If the if-test is seldom executed or the if-test is predictable, why should you
>>>optimize it? Use a profiler to determine what "needs" optimizing. Even then,
>>>think twice before you mangle the readability of your code.
>>
>>I'm quite well aware of all of this.  If you browse the archives, you will
>>probably find that there are few programmers here who warn about premature
>>opitimization more often than I.  :-)
>>
>>Have a look at this message for the most recent example:
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?340567
>>
>>However, in the present case readability is not a major concern for me.
>>One of my plans for the not very distant future is to throw away my
>>current evaluation function entirely, and design some sort of high-level
>>language for defining the evaluation function.  I will then write a Lisp
>>program to transform this evaluation function to C code.  If this works
>>as well as I hope, I will never again have to read or write a single line
>>of C code in my evaluation function, and I am free to choose the low-level
>>constructs which give the fastest code, without worrying about readability.
>>
>>I hate working in low-level languages like C, C++ and assembly language,
>>and prefer to let a program do the dirty work of churning out the most
>>complicated bits of the code rather than doing it all by hand.
>>
>>Tord
>
>That sounds like the proverbial ostrich with head in sand!
>
>Your higher language will eventually produce c code???  Then the c code could
>have either form being discussed but you will have no control over which.  You
>have merely hidden the problem from your own view!  If you create a "compiler"
>which converts your higher language to c, then you will still have to tell the
>"compiler" what form to use.  What have you gained?

Abstraction.

Using C is already an abstraction as well, since a CPU doesn't execute C-code
but machinecode.

Unfortunately most people hardly ever consider writing their own language for
certain things. (it doesn't have to be a high-abstraction language, it can also
be a moderate complicated code-generator for certain things) I think most people
either underestimate these things or are simple not aware of it.

Sargon



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