Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 19:42:06 01/09/04
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On January 09, 2004 at 22:31:40, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 09, 2004 at 22:24:46, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 09, 2004 at 21:37:26, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >> >>>On January 09, 2004 at 20:48:58, Ed Trice wrote: >>> >>>>On January 09, 2004 at 20:42:50, Michel Langeveld wrote: >>>> >>>>>Did you only use the bitboard code and SEE for making Gothic Vortex? >>>> >>>>You cannot download Crafty and just change a few parameters and have a fully >>>>working Gothic Vortex program. >>>> >>>>But, some entire source files were ported directly for use in the program. >>>> >>>>I did ask Dr. Hyatt about this, of coursse. >>> >>>So Dr Hyatt does not need to modify crafty to play Gothic chess - you seem to >>>have done it already for him ! >>>Will you be making this open source like crafty ? ;) >>> >>>Ofcourse I know the answer - but the gall to use crafty code almost completely >>>and then charge others for "$1 license" !!! >> >>I also do not like the $1 license but I think that the only person that can >>complain if there is a problem is Hyatt and not you. >> >>> >>>The earlier impression I got from reading your request was - you are "borrowing" >>>some small pieces which are tough for you to develop - looks like it was not >>>using crafty bits to write your program , but modifying it superficially to play >>>your new variant. >>>No wonder you make claims about its playing strength ! >> >>Your impression is not relevant. >>The limit between borrowing some pieces of Crafty and modifying Crafty is not >>clear. >> >>I believe that the main reason that Hyatt gave permission is the fact that it is >>not a chess playing program. >> >>It is clear that you need to change the move generator and a lot of things when >>you have 8*10 board. >> >>Uri > >I can add that the words of Hyatt gave the impression that he has no objection >that people will use crafty's code for every game with 80 squares and new pieces >like Gothic chess. > >Here is the relevant part when Bob Hyatt said definitely in reply to Ed. > > >> >>I know you have a "non-commercial use" clause in your crafty code, but it is my >>hope that 80 square chess with an Archbishop (knight + bishop) and Chancellor >>(knight + rook) would make such a creation as I am proposing outside of the >>domain of your intended restrictions. > >Definitely... and he borrowed so much code, that anybody else could borrow the same code and there would be nothing he can do to stop it...provided Bob gave this other person permission as well ..as I am sure he would ....so there will no market for his licensing ever... oh well...
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