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Subject: Re: Why is there so much crafty data in GothicVortex?

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 00:41:59 01/10/04

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On January 09, 2004 at 22:31:40, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 09, 2004 at 22:24:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 09, 2004 at 21:37:26, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>>
>>>On January 09, 2004 at 20:48:58, Ed Trice wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 09, 2004 at 20:42:50, Michel Langeveld wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Did you only use the bitboard code and SEE for making Gothic Vortex?
>>>>
>>>>You cannot download Crafty and just change a few parameters and have a fully
>>>>working Gothic Vortex program.
>>>>
>>>>But, some entire source files were ported directly for use in the program.
>>>>
>>>>I did ask Dr. Hyatt about this, of coursse.
>>>
>>>So Dr Hyatt does not need to modify crafty to play Gothic chess - you seem to
>>>have done it already for him !
>>>Will you be making this open source like crafty ? ;)
>>>
>>>Ofcourse I know the answer - but the gall to use crafty code almost completely
>>>and then charge others for "$1 license" !!!
>>
>>I also do not like the $1 license but I think that the only person that can
>>complain if there is a problem is Hyatt and not you.
>>
>>>
>>>The earlier impression I got from reading your request was - you  are "borrowing"
>>>some small pieces which are tough for you to develop - looks like it was not
>>>using crafty bits to write your program , but modifying it superficially to play
>>>your new variant.
>>>No wonder you make claims about its playing strength !
>>
>>Your impression is not relevant.
>>The limit between borrowing some pieces of Crafty and modifying Crafty is not
>>clear.
>>
>>I believe that the main reason that Hyatt gave permission is the fact that it is
>>not a chess playing program.
>>
>>It is clear that you need to change the move generator and a lot of things when
>>you have 8*10 board.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I can add that the words of Hyatt gave the impression that he has no objection
>that people will use crafty's code for every game with 80 squares and new pieces
>like Gothic chess.
>
>Here is the relevant part when Bob Hyatt said definitely in reply to Ed.
>

Hope you can download the crafty source code.
In that case , refer to the license agreement mentioned in main.c
Would help you more ... I had pasted some relevent sections above .. but as
usual , while "thinking" you missed all that ...


Mridul



>
>>
>>I know you have a "non-commercial use" clause in your crafty code, but it is my
>>hope that 80 square chess with an Archbishop (knight + bishop) and Chancellor
>>(knight + rook) would make such a creation as I am proposing outside of the
>>domain of your intended restrictions.
>
>Definitely...



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