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Subject: Re: Gothic / Capablanca's Chess piece values - any results?

Author: Michel Langeveld

Date: 04:46:56 01/10/04

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On January 10, 2004 at 06:38:24, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:

>On January 10, 2004 at 06:17:35, Michel Langeveld wrote:
>
>>This is the current piece value array of TSCP:
>>
>>/* the values of the pieces */
>>int piece_value[BOARD_MAX_PIECE_TYPES] = {
>>   100, //pawn
>>   250, //knight
>>   300, //bishop
>>   475, //rook
>>   650, //archbishop
>>   825, //chancellor
>>   875, //queen
>>   000  //king
>>};
>
>Well, I think Ed Trice also like to make some runs with those values.
>
>>What do I have to file in for your values?
>
>Pawn        = 100
>Knight      = 306
>Bishop      = 360
>Rook        = 543
>Archbishop  = 665
>Chancellor  = 849
>Queen       = 903
>-----------------
>King        = 372 (usage depending on your program)
>
>>Then I will play two games.
>>One with white against the old version and one with black against the old
>>version and tell you what versions what version won the most :-)
>
>Though I think two games would not be that representative I will thank you very
>much for such experiments, because I myself are still far from being able to
>test this.
>
>Regards, Reinhard.

First game is a win for your values:

white: tscp Reinhard Scharnagl values
black: tscp Ed Trice values
e4 e5 Nh3 Nh6 f4 xf4 Nxf4 g5 Nd3 Nc6 g4 Ae7 Ah3 Bd4 Nc3 Ki8 Bf3 Ad6 Kg2 Ne5 Nxe5
Axe5 Kh1 Af4 Axf4 xf4 Ce2 Bf6 Cxf4 Ni4 g5 Nxg5 Bxj7 Kj8 Cj4 Rf8 Bg4 Ki8 Bf5 Kh8
Ki1 d6 Cj7 Ki8 Ci5 Bxf5 Qj7 Kh8 Cxi7 Kg7 Qj4 Kh8 Qj8 Kg7 Ch5 Kg6 Qh6# 1-0

Second game also

white: tscp Ed Trice values
black: tscp Reinhard Scharnagl values
e4 e5 Nh3 Nh6 f4 xf4 Nxf4 g5 Nh3 Nc6 d3 Bd4 Bxg5 f6 Bxh6 Axh6 Nf2 Bxb2 Ng4 Ag5 A
c5 d6 Ab3 Ai6 h3 Be6 c4 Nd4 Aa4 Bxa1 Axe8 Qxe8 Nd2 Ah4 Nf2 Bc3 Kg1 Ag5 Cf1 Af4 g
3 Ne2 Kh2 Nxg3 Cxg3 Bxd2 Ng4 h5 Nxf6 h4 Nxe8 xg3 Ki3 Rxe8 Bf3 j5 j3 Bc3 h4 Bf6 Q
c2 { resigned } 0-1

So we can draw a statistical correct conclusion that your values are much, much
better as the Ed Trice values ;-)

Michel



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