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Subject: Re: Gothic / Capablanca's Chess piece values - any results?

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 12:42:23 01/10/04

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On January 10, 2004 at 12:51:37, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:

>On January 10, 2004 at 12:45:19, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>[:::]
>
>>The technical issue of how piece values can be properly estimated is very
>>interesting to me.
>>
>>In "ordinary" chess, the amount of human experience is measured in the millions
>>of games and so there is plenty of data available to estimate piece values for
>>human vs human games.
>>
>>For a new variant of chess where a new piece is to be used, there will not
>>initially be the extremely large database from which to draw piece valuation
>>estimates and such large databases may be a long time in coming.
>>
>>This begs the following question: "What would be a practical way to develop
>>information which could be used to get better piece valuations?
>>
>>Having a large amount of data provides two benefits:  First, it makes
>>statistical evaluation feasible. Secondly, it provides many examples which could
>>be studied individually to improve our understanding of this topic.
>>
>>Engine versus engine experiments may be a practical solution.  The time limits
>>might be blitz or faster and still give useful data.  [Slow time limits provide
>>smaller databases in a given amount of time but may give better data.]
>>
>>The difficulty might be in deciding how to analyze the data to glean the desired
>>"piece valuations."  Generally, piece valuations depend on a number of things
>>such as whether in opening, middlegame, endgame among many other things.
>>
>>Incidentally, my guess is that the overarching strategic concepts of "ordinary
>>chess" would still apply to chess variants as long as the variant is reasonably
>>close to the original.  What "reasonably" might be is unclear.
>
>Hello Bob,
>
>did you have seen the pages on my web site on this theme? Some pages nearly from
>[http://www.rescon.de/Compu/schachansatz1_e.html].
>
>Regards, Reinhard.

I just looked at it.  The translation could use a little improvement.  I guess I
was hoping for twenty pages.

Nevertheless, your page is interesting.

Bob D.



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