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Subject: Re: Go for it .. claim the prize..

Author: Angrim

Date: 18:37:56 01/10/04

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On January 10, 2004 at 09:48:15, Rick Rice wrote:

>Ed Trice has offered $10k to any person whose Gothic Chess program can defeat
>his program. Based on the posts below, I conclude:
>
>1.) His program is around 2500 ELO.

If I read right, he came up with that number based on games between it and
himself playing at 1 0 time control.  in general comps do FAR better
at 1 0 vs humans than they do at slower time controls.

>2.) TSCP (Gothic) isn't doing too bad against his program. Mostly it needs
>tweaking of parameters.

It seems reasonable to assume that TSCP (Gothic) is less tuned than TSCP(chess),
so a reasonable rating estimate for it would be slightly lower.
I conclude that Ed's program is at a level of development comparable to
a 2100-2200 rated chess program.

>Based on the above, it should be possible for Fritz, Shredder, Junior or Ruffian
>(Gothic) to be able to beat his program with some tweaking of parameters. $10k
>for the taking. Shouldn't let such an opportunity go.
>
>Rick

The problem is that you don't just need to be able to beat Ed's program,
you need to be able to beat the competition first.  If there are 10
strong programmers writing engines for this, then each has a 1:10 chance
at getting to try to beat Ed's program for the 10k prize.  Also, I expect
that Ed will have improved his program a fair bit by the time of the final
match.  So estimate that a strong programmer entering this has a 1 in 15
chance of getting $10k and conclude that they certainly aren't doing it
for the money.

Angrim



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