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Subject: Re: Gothic / Capablanca's Chess piece values - any results?

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 20:39:45 01/10/04

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On January 10, 2004 at 18:24:11, Ed Trice wrote:

>Hello Anthony
>
>
>>My guess is that an Archbishop is only slightly weaker a queen - say 8 : 9 or so.
>>A Chancellor might even be stronger than a queen in some situations (closed
>>positions).
>>
>
>
>The Archbishop has the greatest "utility" in the early stages of the game where
>there are many pawns present. The pawns basically exhaust flight squares for the
>king, which enhance its solo-checkmating ability.
>
>The Chancellor starts to become effective in the middlegame, so its value is
>still less than that of a Queen.
>
>The Rook and Knight components do not cooperate well, and Chancellor is
>functionally a Rook for most of the game.
>
>The Queen is still the deadliest piece, but what changes during the course of
>play is the exchange value for it. For example, earlier in the game, a
>Chancellor + 1 pawn > Queen, so you would give up your Queen for a Q plus a pawn
>you pick up in a tactical volley.
>
>Later on, this might not be the case.
>
>Archbishop + 1 Pawn for Chancellor is another, as is Archibishop + 2 Pawns for a
>Queen.
>
>All theoretical, all still in need of testing.

I guess that all makes sense.  Knights get weaker in the ending.  Still, just
off hand I would put the archbishop just as strong as the chancellor.  It
doesn't have the "confined to the light squares" problems.  Maybe a fair
estimate is 8 pawns for each during the middle game and 7 pawns for each during
the endgame.

It would be interesting to run a few hundred games with your prog and see how
the different material values do.

anthony



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