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Subject: Re: Test your passed-pawn evaluation function!

Author: Stan Arts

Date: 03:44:03 01/13/04

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Neurosis 1.6 on PIII-550 with 32 mb hash

Neurosis in normal mode doesn't find it.

Legal moves: 35   Static score: -114
Ply Score Time     Nodes      Best move and expected line
------------------------------------------------------------
2   -124  5        171        Rg7 Rxg7
3   -124  5        662        Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7
4   -138  11       2688       Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7 g3
4   -136  16       6645       Rh6 a3 Be5 Rb7
5   -134  22       10558      Rh6 a3 Bc3 a2 c6
5   -133  22       11070      Rg7 < + > Rh8 Rxg6
5   -124  27       12477      Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7 g3 c6
6   -137  99       24413      Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7 Ra5 Rc1 g3
6   -136  121      38373      Rh6 < + > a3 Bc3 Rg7 c6
6   -134  165      69250      Rh6 a3 Bc3 f4 d6 g3
6   -133  236      118520     Rh4 < + > a3 Bc3 g3 d6 a2
6   -133  242      120399     Rh4 a3 Bc3 g3 d6 a2 dxe7+ Rxe7 Rd1+ Kc7
7   -123  483      317829     Rh4 Rb7 Bd4 Rb4 Rd1 g3 c6
8   -131  1148     828139     Rh4 a3 Bc3 Ra6 c6 a2 Be5 g3 c7+ Kc8 Rd1
8   -130  1549     1106412    Rh8 < + > Rxh8 Bxh8 Ra5 Rc1 Kc8 f4
8   -128  1576     1124896    Rh8 Rxh8 Bxh8 Ra5 Rc1 f4 d6 g3
9   -124  2060     1515722    Rh8 Rxh8 Bxh8 Ra5 Bd4 Kc7 Rd1 f4 Be5+ Kd8 c6
9   -123  2949     2279359    Rh4 < + > a3 Bc3 Ra6 Rb1 Ra8 d6 f4 dxe7+
9   -122  3768     3015039    Rh4 a3 Bc3 a2 d6 Ra3 dxe7+ Kxe7 Bb2
9   -121  6899     5813009    Be5 < + > Bxh7 Rb1 Rb7 Rxb7 Rg6
9   -112  7338     6226197    Be5 Bxh7 Rb1 Ra8 c6 Ke8 c7 Rc8 Rb8 g3 Rxc8+ Rg7+
10  -112  8958     7620810    Be5 Bxh7 Rb1 Ra8 c6 Ke8 c7 Rc8 Rb8 g3 Rxc8+ Rg7+
11  -68   25134    21861354   Be5 Ra5 Rb1 Rxc5 Rb8+ Rc8 Rxc8+ Kxc8 Rxe7 Kd8 d6
12  -67   66333    58453062   Be5 Ra5 Rb1 Rxc5 Rb8+ Rc8 Rxc8+ Kxc8 Rxe7 Kd8 Ra7
13  -17   178524   157725392  Be5 < + > Ra5 c6 Rxd5 c7+ Kc8 Rb1 Rd1+ Rxd1 Bh5 g3
Total nodes:158618833 n/sec:88300  (Q-nodes:16747976 max depth:24)

Neighter with speculative 1 ,

Legal moves: 35   Static score: -142
Ply Score Time     Nodes      Best move and expected line
------------------------------------------------------------
2   -172  0        173        Rg7 Rxg7
3   -172  0        668        Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7
4   -223  6        2717       Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7 g3
4   -217  6        5665       Rf7 a3 Rg7 Rxg7
4   -217  11       8308       Rh6 f4 c6 f3
4   -211  17       10222      Rh4 a3 Be5 Rb7
5   -205  28       19753      Rh4 a3 Bc3 a2 c6
5   -204  28       20581      Rg7 < + > Rh8 Rxg6
5   -172  33       21571      Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7 Ra5 Rc1
6   -223  60       38496      Rg7 Rxg7 Bxg7 Ra5 Rc1 g3
6   -222  71       47010      Rh4 < + > a3 Bc3 Rg7 Kf2
6   -199  137      99738      Rh4 a3 Bc3 Ra6 c6 g3
7   -169  439      314295     Rh4 Rb7 Bd4 Rb4 Rd1 g3 c6
8   -199  1456     1113253    Rh4 a3 Bc3 Ra6 Kf2 a2 c6 Rf8 Ke3
8   -198  1884     1463117    Rh8 < + > Rxh8 Bxh8 Ra5 Rc1 Kc7
8   -184  1939     1509960    Rh8 Rxh8 Bxh8 Ra5 Rc1 f4 d6 g3
9   -172  2477     1989255    Rh8 Rxh8 Bxh8 Ra5 Bd4 Kc7 Rd1 f4 Be5+ Kd8 c6
9   -171  3180     2597871    Rh4 < + > a3 Bc3 Ra5 Bxa5+ Kc8 c6
9   -166  4284     3452868    Rh4 a3 Bc3 a2 d6 Ra3 dxe7+ Kxe7 Bb2
9   -165  6360     5268357    Be5 < + > Bxh7 Rb1 Rb7 Rxb7 Rg5
9   -136  7344     6168640    Be5 Bxh7 Rb1 Ra8 c6 Ke8 c7 Rc8 Rb8 g3 Rxc8+ Rg7+
10  -136  8947     7546995    Be5 Bxh7 Rb1 Ra8 c6 Ke8 c7 Rc8 Rb8 g3 Rxc8+ Rg7+
11  -74   22948    19731146   Be5 < + > Bxh7 Rb1 Rb7 Rxb7 Kc8 Rxe7 g3 Kf1
Total nodes:25772188 n/sec:87300  (Q-nodes:3807661 max depth:22)

But at speculative 2 (passed pawn and other positional values get extremely
large) it selects it right away, for positional reasons.

Legal moves: 35   Static score: -184
Ply Score Time     Nodes      Best move and expected line
------------------------------------------------------------
2   -216  0        234        Rxe7 Rxe7
3   -120  0        436        Rxe7 Rxe7 c6
4   -106  5        3315       Rxe7 Rxe7 Bf6 g3
5   -72   22       13120      Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Ke8 c6
6   -138  66       39686      Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Ke8 e7 g3
7   -58   192      136518     Rxe7 < + > a3 Rxa7 Rg7 Kf1
7   -54   225      163986     Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Ke8 c6 a3 d7+ Ke7 Bxa3+ Rxa3 c7
8   -54   554      441873     Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Ke8 c6 a3 d7+ Ke7 Bxa3+ Rxa3 c7
9   -18   1538     1233646    Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Kd8 c6 Be8 e7+ Kc8 Rc1 Bxc6 Rxc6+
Kd7 Kf1
10  -18   5229     4522309    Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Kd8 c6 Be8 e7+ Kc8 Rc1 Bxc6 Rxc6+
Kd7 Kf2
11  -22   14928    12759678   Rxe7 Kxe7 d6+ Kd8 c6 Be8 Bd4 Rh7 e7+ Rxe7 dxe7+
Kc7 Re5
Total nodes:26278825 n/sec:89000  (Q-nodes:2827827 max depth:22)

Stan

>In this position you can find several passed pawns for both sides (this is
>particularly hard for my engine), plus three connected passed pawns after the
>sacrifice 1. Rxe7, which is an obvious move to consider for human players.
>How much is worth 3 connected passed pawns in the 5th and 6th versus a rook
>here?
>
>[d]3k2r1/r3p2R/4P1b1/2PP1p2/p5p1/8/1B6/4R1K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Does your engine find this move?
>(Mine doesn't. My passed-pawn goes mad giving extreme values for both sides
>during eval, making the search oscillate from one move to another all the time)
>
>Jaime



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