Author: Mark Young
Date: 12:32:12 01/13/04
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On January 13, 2004 at 14:31:38, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 13, 2004 at 10:59:52, Steve Maughan wrote: > >>Martin, >> >>>translated this means about this: "fritz and shredder played the best chess in >>>this tournament (he is comparing against junior and brutus), and won their >>>games against the outsiders most easily" - i don't really mind the first part >>>of this sentence, but the second part is really hilarious given the shredder- >>>jonny incident! >> >>I don't really want to start up the whole Graz scandle thread but in the Jonny >>game Shredder was easily winning. > >Pardon me, you mean easily winning? And why SHREDDER didn't win (easily)? Why >had it won with the aid of someone who threw a whole game although it was a >draw? Could you explain your position? If you are a chessplayer yourself, could >you reflect your position in relation to possible cases of a PATT or THREEFOLD? >Would you dare to say that such draws are not existing because they are most >unfair to the side which has a won game???? > >Do you mean that if you call something a "bug", that then this is like >'unimportant' or 'non-existent'? > >So, if I allow a draw by a PATT for instance, that then I couzld say that I had >a bug and then I would still be judged as an extremely strong player? And my >opponents would throw their game just to let me wi??? Where is this being >played. Please tell me exact address. > > > > >>The scandle occured due to a bug in Shredder. >> So if SMK is commenting on the general quality of chess played by the programs >>(which he seems to be) I don't really have a problem and I think he's correct. >> > >The "general" quality of the chess is something SMK is completely impotent to >judge. SMK has no chess master status whatsoever. Probably he's a good >businessman as Daniel pointed out, but his thought process is really biased >heavily. Please do not speak of chess in general if you talk about the actual >computerchess with BOOKS and TABLES, which is cheating after the FIDE Laws. > >Rolf I looked at the games. It seems to me Shredder played the best chess in the event. I don't care if Shredder should not have won the title. My guess is Shredder 8 is the strongest program. We will know for sure shortly, many will have Deep Fritz 8 and Shredder 8 on their own computers. > > > > >>Regards, >> >>Steve
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