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Subject: Re: On clearing book learning?

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 08:32:11 01/14/04

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On January 14, 2004 at 09:24:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 14, 2004 at 06:36:38, Chris Taylor wrote:
>
>>Why, what are the for and against?
>>I play mainly auto232; and have quite a lot of games.  As a result, had I not
>>cleared learning, what would this mean.
>
>What will happen is that your book will dry up and go away.  You _must_ lose
>a game with nearly every opening at some point in time, and without some
>caution,
>that will make that line unplayable.  And once it is unplayable, there is no way
>for it to become playable again, without your intervention.

Perhaps it not is not merely a joke to characterize Crafty's automatic opening
book learning as:  "Snip, snip, snip!"

If, instead of outright snipping, the probabilities were merely adjusted by some
small amount then the phenomena you describe might not happen, or at least not
as often.  It seems to be a matter of stability.  If there is no human
intervention then things could go terribly wrong!

Bob H., in a previous bulletin you provided a "thumbnail sketch" of the criteria
Crafty uses to determine whether or not to "snip."  If I understood it
correctly, you said that the engine monitored the position evaluation scores as
soon as the program was out of the opening book and if the evaluation changed
adversely by a certain amount over the next five or ten moves, then Crafty
snipped.  If so, the final outcome of the game has no impact on book learning in
Crafty. Did I get that right?

Bob D.


>
>
>>
>>There are different guis' and engines all handling this in varied ways.  So, is
>>it possible to gereralise?
>>
>>My PIII 733 has been playing 7 mins games; eng - eng, for about 3 months.  Is
>>there any reason to clear the book learnings?
>
>If you start playing longer time controls, yes...
>
>>
>>Opinions please! Both for and against
>>
>>Chris Taylor



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