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Subject: Re: Fritz8 ( Version 8.0.0.23 ) poor showing Game 15 Engine Tourn (1 PC)

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 09:03:00 01/14/04

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On January 14, 2004 at 11:41:00, Brian Katz wrote:

>I just ran a 1 PC Engine Tournament (DOUBLE ROUND ROBIN)and Fritz 8 (8.0.0.23)
>did not do as well as expected. I have had similar results with the 8.0.0.8
>Engine as well.
>Has anyone had similar results with Fritz 8 while running 1 PC Engine
>Tournaments?
>I am assuming that Fritz 8 would perform better with a longer time control.
>However, a longer time control for this Tournament...(56 Games),would take quite
>some time to run, as this one in particular took almost 20 hours.
>
>Other than Fritz 7, DF7 and Hiarcs 8 which used their own Opening Books, (Hiarcs
>8 used the Tournament Book Version) Fritz 8 and all other engines used the Fritz
>8 Opening Book.
>
>         GAME 15 (No Increments) Hashtables 64MB (Ponder Off)
>                 AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 1 GIG DDR SDRAM
>
>                   1    2   3  4   5   6   7   8
>1   Deep Fritz 7   **  ½½  11  0½  0½  1½  ½1  11    9.0/14  56.25
>2   Fritz 7        ½½  **  0½  1½  ½½  11  ½½  11    9.0/14  55.75
>3   Ruffian 1.0.1  00  1½  **  ½1  10  ½½  11  ½1    8.5/14
>4   Hiarcs 8       1½  0½  ½0  **  ½1  11  10  10    8.0/14
>5   Fritz 8        1½  ½½  01  ½0  **  ½0  1½  ½1    7.5/14
>6   Crafty 19.06   0½  00  ½½  00  ½1  **  ½1  ½1    6.0/14
>7   Crafty 19.08   ½0  ½½  00  01  0½  ½0  **  1½    5.0/14
>8   Yace Paderborn 00  00  ½0  01  ½0  ½0  0½  **    3.0/14
>
>Please post your opinions.
>Thanks
>Brian

     Please take it as it is: just another tournament with
     less games. Almost all can happen in such tournaments.
     If you look at our "5moves 2004 Tournament" (90m+30s)
     http://www.utzingerkurt.com/5moves.htm
     you will find in one serie (over 7 games) Fritz8 as
     winner, in the next serie the same engine at last place.
     And the same thing occurred to most of the engines in the
     still running tournament (once good and the other time bad
     results). Any tournament contains a great margin of error
     with regard to Elo/results and the less games are played
     the less reliable is the outcome. In any case: we should
     never make wrong conclusions from only one tournament.
     Kurt




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