Author: Brian Katz
Date: 11:29:25 01/14/04
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On January 14, 2004 at 14:19:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 14, 2004 at 14:14:57, Brian Katz wrote: > >>On January 14, 2004 at 12:03:00, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2004 at 11:41:00, Brian Katz wrote: >>> >>>>I just ran a 1 PC Engine Tournament (DOUBLE ROUND ROBIN)and Fritz 8 (8.0.0.23) >>>>did not do as well as expected. I have had similar results with the 8.0.0.8 >>>>Engine as well. >>>>Has anyone had similar results with Fritz 8 while running 1 PC Engine >>>>Tournaments? >>>>I am assuming that Fritz 8 would perform better with a longer time control. >>>>However, a longer time control for this Tournament...(56 Games),would take quite >>>>some time to run, as this one in particular took almost 20 hours. >>>> >>>>Other than Fritz 7, DF7 and Hiarcs 8 which used their own Opening Books, (Hiarcs >>>>8 used the Tournament Book Version) Fritz 8 and all other engines used the Fritz >>>>8 Opening Book. >> >>I agree that in a limited number of games anything can happen. Like flipping a >>coin where Heads should come up 5 times out of ten but sometimes it could >> be 8-1 > > ^^^ > >math-challenged today? Or did you get one "edge" in those ten flips? > >:)Yes I am!! I did not have my calculator so I had to take an estimated guess at the remainder after 10 minus 8. Unfortunately I came up with 8-1 rather than 8-2. I will have to take out my flash cards and study my math. Brian > > > > > >>then 2-8 etc., but in then end over a large number it should average out to >>close to where it should be. >>Bit, in many Engine Tournaments that I have run, it seems that Fritz 8 just has >>not scored as well as one would expect. >> >>Im fact, in a game 2/1 tournament, Fritz 8 was losing many games agaist Ruffian >>1.0.1. With the win loss result being quite lopsided at that. >> >>I just expected more out of Fritz 8. Especially based on all the hype. >>Brian >>>> >>>> GAME 15 (No Increments) Hashtables 64MB (Ponder Off) >>>> AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 1 GIG DDR SDRAM >>>> >>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 >>>>1 Deep Fritz 7 ** ½½ 11 0½ 0½ 1½ ½1 11 9.0/14 56.25 >>>>2 Fritz 7 ½½ ** 0½ 1½ ½½ 11 ½½ 11 9.0/14 55.75 >>>>3 Ruffian 1.0.1 00 1½ ** ½1 10 ½½ 11 ½1 8.5/14 >>>>4 Hiarcs 8 1½ 0½ ½0 ** ½1 11 10 10 8.0/14 >>>>5 Fritz 8 1½ ½½ 01 ½0 ** ½0 1½ ½1 7.5/14 >>>>6 Crafty 19.06 0½ 00 ½½ 00 ½1 ** ½1 ½1 6.0/14 >>>>7 Crafty 19.08 ½0 ½½ 00 01 0½ ½0 ** 1½ 5.0/14 >>>>8 Yace Paderborn 00 00 ½0 01 ½0 ½0 0½ ** 3.0/14 >>>> >>>>Please post your opinions. >>>>Thanks >>>>Brian >>> >>> Please take it as it is: just another tournament with >>> less games. Almost all can happen in such tournaments. >>> If you look at our "5moves 2004 Tournament" (90m+30s) >>> http://www.utzingerkurt.com/5moves.htm >>> you will find in one serie (over 7 games) Fritz8 as >>> winner, in the next serie the same engine at last place. >>> And the same thing occurred to most of the engines in the >>> still running tournament (once good and the other time bad >>> results). Any tournament contains a great margin of error >>> with regard to Elo/results and the less games are played >>> the less reliable is the outcome. In any case: we should >>> never make wrong conclusions from only one tournament. >>> Kurt
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