Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 18:30:39 01/14/04
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On January 14, 2004 at 17:16:52, Chesster Fritz wrote: >On January 14, 2004 at 13:30:29, José Carlos wrote: > >>On January 14, 2004 at 12:32:45, Chesster Fritz wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2004 at 10:27:43, José Carlos wrote: >>> >>>>On January 14, 2004 at 08:43:08, Chesster Fritz wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 14, 2004 at 04:28:28, José Carlos wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 18:53:25, Chesster Fritz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 16:41:01, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 15:52:05, Frank Phillips wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 14:54:05, Thomas Mayer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hi Rolf, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>When I would be in SMK's position I would also not talk about that - besides as >>>>>>>>>>a publisher of Shredder I would also not publish something about that >>>>>>>>>>"draw-problem" at WCCC. That is business. >>>>>>>>>>That's like the penalty for Germany at the soccer worldchampionship 1990 - I am >>>>>>>>>>pretty sure that it was no penalty. Or think about the 3:2 at Worldchampionships >>>>>>>>>>1960 in England - usually it's not an englishman who starts the discussion about >>>>>>>>>>that. And the ball was definitely NOT in the goal... :) >>>>>>>>>>Winning counts - how is not so important after a while... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Greets, Thomas >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>3:2 ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>1960 ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well, let's excuse Thommy who wasn't yet born when this happened. He just >>>>>>>>accepts what he has experienced on his own. So all other standards - in special >>>>>>>>fair play coming from England in the 19th century - are old out-dated stuff. >>>>>>>>Just like DschingisKhan... :)) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The rest of the world will always hold in mind the throwing of a game during the >>>>>>>>Wch in Graz to the benefit of SHREDDER. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>To all who want to follow Mayer, he was talking of the soccer final in 1966 >>>>>>>>which ended with 4-2 for England. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Rolf >>>>>>> >>>>>>>FYI The rest of the world, with the exception of a few, could care less... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Fritz >>>>>> >>>>>> You speak in the name of the rest of the world? >>>>>> Funny. >>>>>> >>>>>> José C. >>>>> >>>>>You're misrepresenting what I said. It's simply a fact most of the world isn't >>>>>hung up on such a trivial matter, it has better things to do with it's time. >>>>>I don't have to speak for it nor do I, it just is. >>>>> >>>>>Fritz >>>> >>>> Where did you get that information from? Maybe some survey? What's the degree >>>>of confidence of it? In what countries was it conducted? And what kind of people >>>>was asked? How many people? Or maybe it is some scientific research? >>>> Hint: speak for yourself, not for others. >>>> >>>> José C. >>> >>>Yes, it was a scientific survey, >> >> Ok, then you can surely answer my questions, can't you? > >It was rhetorical. >> >>>don't be so obtuse, or rude. >> >> No obtuse nor rude words in my questions. Read again. > >I did...and it is. >> >>>Unless you like coming off looking like a pompous ass? >> >> That makes your point clear. Thanks. > >Yes it does. > >Arguing silly points has taken everything away from my reply to Rolf. Wasn't silly at all. Was right to the point. Because you missed the core of my critic and then went on tangents. > >Why can't we stay on topic rather than exchanging insults? It was you who had insulted JC not he you. > Ok, maybe the issue >about Graz isn't trivial to you or several others who post at this forum, but >outside this forum, people for the most part don't care or don't care that much. Because they dont understand the arguments. >Even the ones who do care have moved on, but some haven't, like Rolf. Please get real. I have no money or energy in that topic other than decent science. I was already well "over it" when I read how confusing SMK reported about his "success". There must be a minimum of decency. > >I've read my fill on what happened at Graz, and although what happened was >unfortunate, it wasn't the end of honest computer chess championships. Of course it wasn't but the event in Graz ended with a wrong result. Simply because the decisions were totally wrong. It is then dishonest to behave as if nothing spectacular had happened... You see, that is the point, not that I had reported about that ChessBase PR. > >Sometimes you have to let it go. Learn by it and move on. This is one of those >times. What is the base of what you are saying here? Bob Hyatt explained why simply the result is unacceptable and wrong. Why should suddenly be right what is wrong down to the bones? Only because you want it? > >The topic, if you read the whole column, is Rolf's critisism of SMK in a >ChessBase ad, for not mentioning how SMK won WCCC, by a supposed bad call >after a 3rd repeat. Also that SMK knows nothing about chess, which is most >certainly incorrect. You make a wrong description of what I wrote. > >Then he goes on that SMK's only interests are business...duh!;Of course the ad >is business, and saying anything else would be idiotic. No, this is wrong. He can have all the interests he wants but he cant claim - on the base of his chess understanding as he wrote - that it was normal that Fritz and Shredder came into the tie. This is completely false. He came into the tie due to a participant throwing a whoke game which is very evil! Rolf > >> >> José C. > > >Fritz
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