Author: Chesster Fritz
Date: 19:27:57 01/14/04
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On January 14, 2004 at 21:30:39, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 14, 2004 at 17:16:52, Chesster Fritz wrote: > >>On January 14, 2004 at 13:30:29, José Carlos wrote: >> >>>On January 14, 2004 at 12:32:45, Chesster Fritz wrote: >>> >>>>On January 14, 2004 at 10:27:43, José Carlos wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 14, 2004 at 08:43:08, Chesster Fritz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 14, 2004 at 04:28:28, José Carlos wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 18:53:25, Chesster Fritz wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 16:41:01, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 15:52:05, Frank Phillips wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On January 13, 2004 at 14:54:05, Thomas Mayer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi Rolf, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>When I would be in SMK's position I would also not talk about that - besides as >>>>>>>>>>>a publisher of Shredder I would also not publish something about that >>>>>>>>>>>"draw-problem" at WCCC. That is business. >>>>>>>>>>>That's like the penalty for Germany at the soccer worldchampionship 1990 - I am >>>>>>>>>>>pretty sure that it was no penalty. Or think about the 3:2 at Worldchampionships >>>>>>>>>>>1960 in England - usually it's not an englishman who starts the discussion about >>>>>>>>>>>that. And the ball was definitely NOT in the goal... :) >>>>>>>>>>>Winning counts - how is not so important after a while... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Greets, Thomas >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>3:2 ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>1960 ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well, let's excuse Thommy who wasn't yet born when this happened. He just >>>>>>>>>accepts what he has experienced on his own. So all other standards - in special >>>>>>>>>fair play coming from England in the 19th century - are old out-dated stuff. >>>>>>>>>Just like DschingisKhan... :)) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The rest of the world will always hold in mind the throwing of a game during the >>>>>>>>>Wch in Graz to the benefit of SHREDDER. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>To all who want to follow Mayer, he was talking of the soccer final in 1966 >>>>>>>>>which ended with 4-2 for England. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Rolf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>FYI The rest of the world, with the exception of a few, could care less... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Fritz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You speak in the name of the rest of the world? >>>>>>> Funny. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> José C. >>>>>> >>>>>>You're misrepresenting what I said. It's simply a fact most of the world isn't >>>>>>hung up on such a trivial matter, it has better things to do with it's time. >>>>>>I don't have to speak for it nor do I, it just is. >>>>>> >>>>>>Fritz >>>>> >>>>> Where did you get that information from? Maybe some survey? What's the degree >>>>>of confidence of it? In what countries was it conducted? And what kind of people >>>>>was asked? How many people? Or maybe it is some scientific research? >>>>> Hint: speak for yourself, not for others. >>>>> >>>>> José C. >>>> >>>>Yes, it was a scientific survey, >>> >>> Ok, then you can surely answer my questions, can't you? >> >>It was rhetorical. >>> >>>>don't be so obtuse, or rude. >>> >>> No obtuse nor rude words in my questions. Read again. >> >>I did...and it is. >>> >>>>Unless you like coming off looking like a pompous ass? >>> >>> That makes your point clear. Thanks. >> >>Yes it does. >> >>Arguing silly points has taken everything away from my reply to Rolf. > > >Wasn't silly at all. Was right to the point. Because you missed the core of my >critic and then went on tangents. > No, I'm not nuts, like you. > > >> >>Why can't we stay on topic rather than exchanging insults? > > >It was you who had insulted JC not he you. Too bad you can't read English. > >> Ok, maybe the issue >>about Graz isn't trivial to you or several others who post at this forum, but >>outside this forum, people for the most part don't care or don't care that much. > > >Because they dont understand the arguments. No kidding, niether can you, I might as well discuss this with my pets. > > > >>Even the ones who do care have moved on, but some haven't, like Rolf. > > > >Please get real. I have no money or energy in that topic other than decent >science. I was already well "over it" when I read how confusing SMK reported >about his "success". There must be a minimum of decency. Oh, I'm quite real...but you? You're a study in abnormal psychology. > > > >> >>I've read my fill on what happened at Graz, and although what happened was >>unfortunate, it wasn't the end of honest computer chess championships. > > >Of course it wasn't but the event in Graz ended with a wrong result. Simply >because the decisions were totally wrong. It is then dishonest to behave as if >nothing spectacular had happened... You see, that is the point, not that I had >reported about that ChessBase PR. > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ > > >> >>Sometimes you have to let it go. Learn by it and move on. This is one of those >>times. > > >What is the base of what you are saying here? Bob Hyatt explained why simply the >result is unacceptable and wrong. Why should suddenly be right what is wrong >down to the bones? Only because you want it? > > No, I just live in the REAL world. > >> >>The topic, if you read the whole column, is Rolf's critisism of SMK in a >>ChessBase ad, for not mentioning how SMK won WCCC, by a supposed bad call >>after a 3rd repeat. Also that SMK knows nothing about chess, which is most >>certainly incorrect. > >You make a wrong description of what I wrote. Did I? I doubt you comprehend your own ramblings. > > > >> >>Then he goes on that SMK's only interests are business...duh!;Of course the ad >>is business, and saying anything else would be idiotic. > > >No, this is wrong. He can have all the interests he wants but he cant claim - on >the base of his chess understanding as he wrote - that it was normal that Fritz >and Shredder came into the tie. This is completely false. He came into the tie >due to a participant throwing a whoke game which is very evil! > >Rolf > Uh-huh, you're very sick, get help. >> >>> >>> José C. >> >> >>Fritz
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