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Subject: Important addendum-depth=22/22, subsequently 21/88!!!!!!!!!!!! n.t.

Author: John Roberts

Date: 06:27:52 01/15/04

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On January 15, 2004 at 09:22:09, John Roberts wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 09:08:52, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2004 at 08:52:00, John Roberts wrote:
>>
>>>A - B
>>>
>>>6k1/5p1p/1nB1n1p1/1P6/2pq2P1/3p3P/1P1Q1PK1/R7 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>>
>>>>37.Qc3 Qd6 38.Re1 Na4 39.Qd2 Kg7 40.Ra1 Nb6 41.Qc3+ Kg8
>>>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 19/55   17:27:52  32245654kN
>>>37.Qc3 Qd6 38.Re1 Na4 39.Qd2 Kg7 40.Ra1 Nb6 41.Kf1 Nd4
>>>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 20/56   45:57:00  87323100kN
>>>37.Qc3 Qd6 38.Re1 Na4 39.Qd2 Kg7 40.Ra1 Nb6 41.Kf1 Nd4
>>>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 21/74   121:11:44  234690340kN, tb=1
>>>37.Qc3 Qd6 38.Re1 Na4 39.Qd2 Kg7 40.Ra1 Nb6 41.Kf1 Nd4
>>>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 21/88   318:20:01  625183936kN, tb=16
>>>
>>>
>>>The clock readings are correct, so why doesn't the last line read 22/88?
>>>
>>>Pentium4 2.4GHz with 334MB hash, 512MB ram compaq presario.
>>
>>Wow! 318 hours. Why do you care so much about this position?
>>
>>I have seen Fritz do this, thousants of times. It shows a move in depth
>>X/Y and it shows it again at depth X/Y+K  (K>0). Why do you think it's strange?
>>Look for example the following at depth 9 and 11. The same happens:
>>
>>Analysis by Deep Fritz 8:
>>
>>46...Qf4xd6 47.a2-a4 Qd6-d4 48.d7-d8Q Qd4xd8 49.f2-f4 Qd8-d4 50.Bb5-c4
>>  -+  (-3.57)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  50kN
>>46...Qf4xd6 47.a2-a4 Qd6-d4 48.d7-d8Q Qd4xd8 49.f2-f4 Qd8-d4 50.Bb5-c4 Qd4-b2+
>>  -+  (-3.57)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  81kN
>>46...Qf4xd6!
>>  -+  (-3.86)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:00  192kN
>>46...Qf4xd6 47.a2-a4 Qd6-d4 48.d7-d8Q
>>  -+  (-4.11)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:00  347kN
>>46...Qf4xd6 47.Bb5-c4 Qd6xd7 48.f2-f3 Qd7-d4 49.f3xe4 Qd4xe4+ 50.Ke2-d2 Qe4-g2+
>>51.Kd2-e3 Qg2xh3+ 52.Ke3-d4 Bh4-f6+ 53.Kd4-c5 Qh3-e3+ 54.Kc5-b5 Kh7-g6
>>  -+  (-4.34)   Depth: 10/27   00:00:01  987kN
>>46...Qf4xd6!
>>  -+  (-4.62)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:03  1804kN
>>46...Qf4xd6!
>>  -+  (-4.90)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:05  2444kN
>>46...Qf4xd6 47.Bb5-c4 Qd6xd7 48.f2-f3 Qd7-d4 49.f3xe4 Qd4xe4+ 50.Ke2-d1 Qe4-b1+
>>51.Kd1-d2 Qb1xa2+ 52.Kd2-c3 Qa2-a5+ 53.Kc3-c2 Bh4-g5 54.Rf1-d1 Bg5-f6 55.Bc4xf7
>>  -+  (-5.09)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:07  3472kN
>
>Of course this happens, but in your examples, it doesn't circulate through all
>the possible candidates before spitting out the 2nd (or 3rd, etc) variation with
>the same key move.
>
>The example I gave, I've never seen anything like it, as part of the 197 hours
>were spent examining each candidate once.  The only buggy aspect would be that
>I've watched DVDs and surfed while this (infinite) analysis is currently
>performed, with tablebases enabled.
>
>A friend asked me to help figure out if the position is won for White,
>intellectual curiousity is all.  See posts about 2 months ago...

Important addendum-depth=22/22, subsequently 21/88!!!!!!!!!!!! which is what it
shows NOW, as I type this--it's still chugging along.


I swear this is true, I am not losing my mind.  Why, oh why?



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