Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Shredder 7 and Hyperthreading --Way, Way OT

Author: John Roberts

Date: 06:40:35 01/15/04

Go up one level in this thread


On January 13, 2004 at 10:20:30, Jasmine Baer wrote:

>On January 13, 2004 at 10:09:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 13, 2004 at 10:02:14, Jasmine Baer wrote:
>>
>>>Hello.
>>>
>>>Time for another question about the effects of hyperthreading (Intel P4) on
>>>chess engine performance.
>>>
>>>One of Shredder's parameters allows 1 or two threads.  It defaulted to 2
>>>threads, so when I was playing a game, I noticed that my CPU utilization was at
>>>or very near 100% during the game.  If I set the number of threads to 1,
>>>utilization is more similar to my other chess engines - hovering at, or slightly
>>>above 50%.
>>>
>>>Because running two threads pushes CPU utilization to 100%, my CPU runs a bit
>>>hotter.  After a 5 minute blitz game with 2 threads, I get readings of 51-52
>>>degrees Celsius, whereas if I run with only 1 thread, I get readings that are
>>>about 2-3 degrees lower at the end of the game.
>>>
>>>Does running Shredder with 2 threads on a Hyperthreading Intel P4 processor (2.8
>>>Ghz) increase Shredder's strength?  If it does, I can see running it with two
>>>threads, but if it doesn't make the engine stronger, why make the CPU run 2-3
>>>degrees hotter?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any feedback anyone can provide.
>>>
>>>-JTB
>>>
>>>PS - I can run my own tournaments to see how Shredder performs with 1 thread or
>>>2 threads, but I was hoping some of you out there have already done something
>>>similar and have reached a conclusion that you can share with me.
>>
>>
>>First, I can't imagine why you are worrying about 2-3 degrees.  20-30 might
>>be more interesting.
>>
>>Second, why not set up a position on Shredder, and run it to a fixed search
>>depth.  Use 1 thread, then 2 threads and see which is faster.  That will answer
>>your question.
>
>I will go home after work and load up the test set that comes with the Chessbase
>engines.  I'll run it with 1 thread and then 2 threads.  That should provide
>enough info to see what the effect of the additional thread is.
>
>As far as the temperature goes, the cooler I can keep the processor, the happier
>I am.  Don't really know why - I just like to see how cool I can keep it when
>running at a full load.  An odd obsession, I guess.

This would be a nice thread for CTF, I usually try to wipe my bum bum using 3 or
4 sets of 4 squares, but it depends on what I ate.  Sorry, I couldn't resist.
:)



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.