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Subject: Re: Correction it is Speelman who found a forced win after .1..Kc7

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 15:19:56 01/15/04

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On January 15, 2004 at 17:34:08, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 13:40:23, Brian Katz wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2004 at 12:19:48, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2004 at 12:02:55, Brian Katz wrote:
>>>
>>>>Correction it is Speelman who found a forced win after 1..Kc7
>>>>
>>>>I accidently mentioned Michael Steen rather than Speelman.
>>>>Brian
>>>
>>>After 49...Kc7 50.Ba6 (or any other Bishop move) 50...Kd6= and if instead 50.Ka6
>>>Bg1=. Read what I wrote carefully and you will see that the draw is quite
>>>trivial.
>>>
>>>BTW, there is no way White can force his way to the h6 pawn with his King as
>>>I've indicated elsewhere in this thread.
>>
>>
>>How about in this line?
>>
>>
>>1...Kc7 2.Ba6 Be1
>
>
>As I indicated the move Kd6 here is drawing.
>
>
>>3.c5 Bd2 4.Kc4 Kc6 5.Bb5+ Kc7 6.Kd5 Bb4 7c6 Kd8 8.Bf1 Kc7
>>9.Bg2 Bc3 10.Ke6 Bb4 11.Kf7 Be1 12.Kg6 Kd6 13.Kxh5 Bh4 14.Kg6 Kc7 15.Kf5 Kd6
>>16.Be4 Kc7 17.Kd6 Bf2 18.Kd5 Bg3 19.Kc5 Be1 20.Kb5 Bd2 21.h4 gxh4 22.Bg2 Bf4
>>(22...Kc8 23.Kb6 Bf4 24.Kxa5...) 23.Kxa5 h3 24.Be4 h2 25.Kb5 Be3 26.a5 Kd6 27.a6
>>Kc7 28.g5! Bd4 29.g6...and Black is busted.
>>
>>BUT perhaps you are right.
>>Black allows the a-pawn to be captured then the only way white can make progress
>>is to give back one of the Queenside pawns and that would be a forced DRAW.
>>
>>Great position for analysis!!!
>>
>>Brian
>
>
>This is _not_ a great position for analysis. There is little need to be doing
>much analysis at all. You need to pay attention to what I wrote
>(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?342545). Black has a fortress
>position against which White cannot produce anything resembling progress. The
>position is a stone cold draw.

I stumbled across the following quoted from Anand from:

    http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/event/wijk2004/rd4.html

about half way down. It is less complete, but maybe it will get the point across
more effectively for you:

"Basically, all black has to do is to keep the bishop on the a7-g1 diagonal.
And, whenever the white king attempts to cross [for example via Ka6 to b7], the
black king goes to c7 to prevent this. And, if white goes with his king to d3,
black [while still keeping the bishop on the a7-g1 diagonal] immediately answers
with Ke5, again preventing the king crossing.”

It is essentially the same idea as mine.



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