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Subject: Re: Mr Hyatt compete with his program against Kasparov

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:27:27 01/15/04

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On January 15, 2004 at 22:23:01, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On January 15, 2004 at 20:38:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2004 at 17:11:08, John Paul Jones wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2004 at 14:57:01, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 11:30:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 15, 2004 at 06:17:38, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You have improved DeepSjeng much in kingsideattacks. That´s are really good
>>>>>>news.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But you know there is a lot to do to play good attackingchess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe i should post another position by Kasaparov?
>>>>>
>>>>>Should this turn into a kasparov did this well, kasparov blundered here
>>>>>type of "war"?
>>>>
>>>>Noooo!!!!! pleeeeease no war !!!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In response to your position, I'll offer game 2 in the DB 1997 match,
>>>>>where kasparov blundered and resigned in a drawn position.  My program
>>>>>won't resign there.  Does that make it better than Kasparov?  That kind
>>>>>of logic is simply flawed.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, but i don´t like this kind of simple logic.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Kasparov (and all other GM players) have played more than their share of
>>>>>blunders to go along with the brilliancies.  I don't think that just because
>>>>>a program will (or won't) play the same move says much about who is better.
>>>>>Single moves don't mean a lot.  Complete games do.
>>>>
>>>>Yes!!!, and as we know he is the highest rated player in the world, which means
>>>>that a has the most wins against the best players of the world. Do you believe
>>>>that your program can do it as well as Kasparov it did?
>>>
>>>
>>>Crafty would not stand a prayer in anything longer then game in 15
>>
>>
>>I would not be surprised if it _won_ at anything under game/30.  And at
>>longer time controls it is _not_ easy to beat it there...  There's plenty
>>of evidence.  It has played GMs at long time controls more than once...
>
>Perhaps, Bob H., you should offer Kasparov a handicap.  Let him have several
>times as much time per move on average, but play blitz.
>
>I don't know how to pay the guy.  Maybe trick him into playing for free.  I
>don't know what else.  Say to Kasparov: "My chess program can give you odds and
>still whip you at blitz."  Maybe he would respond to that challenge just for the
>fun of it?
>
>: )
>
>Bob D.

I've done that with Cray Blitz in the past.  I used to type moves in, play
5 minute vs 5 minute chess, and hardly ever lost a game.  Even with the
input/output time.  I had CB use 3 secs/move until it had used 1 minute, then
2 secs/move until it had used 2 minutes total (counting first minute) then down
to 1 sec per move.  It maybe lost one game out of 20 against GM players...

I really don't care who believe who can beat who.  It is way too easy to
determine that on ICC for example.



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